#92 | South Texas Haunts w/ Guest Co-host Ben DeLeon of Recycled Corn Podcast

[00:00:00] Speaker A: What's going on, y'? [00:00:01] Speaker B: All? [00:00:01] Speaker A: Welcome back to the Corpus Chris originals. I'm your host, Jesus Hilario. Today we're going to be going beyond the ordinary and into the paranormal with Monty Prescott, Shauna Davis of South Texas Haunts. What's up, you guys? They investigate haunted places across South Texas, blending local history, mystery, and personal encounters. Joining me as my guest co host, my friend Ben De Leon of the recycled corn podcast. What's up, man? [00:00:26] Speaker B: How's it going, man? [00:00:26] Speaker A: Thanks for having me. Who's bringing in fresh questions from his from a first time investigator's perspective. Whether you're a believer, skeptic, or just love a good ghost story, this is the one for you. Let's dive in. How y' all doing today? [00:00:38] Speaker C: Y' all good? [00:00:39] Speaker D: Doing pretty good. [00:00:40] Speaker C: Thanks for having us. [00:00:40] Speaker D: Yes, definitely. [00:00:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Ben, what do you think? Guest co host. [00:00:44] Speaker B: I'm. This is weird. I'm not used to being on this side of it. I'm used to having an assistant, not being the assistant. [00:00:51] Speaker A: Hey, yeah, Shout out to your assistant. I mean, co host, Scuba, what's up? Right on. Yeah. So how did you guys get it? How did South Texas haunts get started? [00:01:01] Speaker D: Well, it kind of goes back before South Texas haunts. About 21 years ago, my mom and I started Corpus Christi spook central. And basically we had a shop in Corpus and we did automotive restoration and, you know, collected cars, classic cars. And we started noticing a lot of activity and we reached out to another group that was here locally in Corpus and they came out, they investigated. We just investigating inside that building. And, man, I got stories from that crazy. And basically my mom wanted to join the group and my dad looked at me and goes, if your mom's going to do it, you're going with her because I don't trust this. So we went with them for a little while. Not a lot happened. And then one day I looked at my mom and said, hey, what do you think about Corpus Christi spook central? She goes, wow, really? Who are they? I said, it's us. And she looked at me and said, you're crazy. And then we hit the ground running. And 21 years later, now we're South Texas haunts. We're still Corpus Christi spook central, but for the last five years, we've been doing a television show with Christic Studios and traveling around South Texas, sharing the history and hauntings of a lot of spooky locations here. [00:02:09] Speaker A: That's so cool, man. How did you guys cut that? That's awesome. So they picked you Up. They asked y' all to host the show. They had. They had a show before, and they want. [00:02:19] Speaker D: Oh, this was totally brand new. And we got the phone call, and they were like, hey, we're wanting to branch out. We're wanting to do a TV show. Of course, my mom's like, it's just a Halloween special. Because usually around Halloween, they'll call and say, hey, we want to do something for the news. And it was the. Lexington was our. Our pilot episode. We were all green. I mean, she accidentally hit her head on the. [00:02:41] Speaker C: Knock myself out on that episode, you actually see me on camera grab for the wall. Because it was either the wall or I was going down. And then I was trying to explain a piece of equipment I've used a thousand times. And it was more of a, yeah, yeah, this. This thing and that thing. And I was like, somebody come up here and rescue me. It took them a little while to figure out what was happening. [00:02:59] Speaker D: But, yeah, I. I came in because I had to go get a piece of equipment. I came back on the set where the stage was, and I looked over at her, and I could just see her kind of. And I was like, oh, this ain't right. Something wrong. Because she's uming a lot. When she ums a lot, something's wrong. And I walked over to her. She goes, yeah, this thing. That thing. Like, no, let's go and turn the ghost box on. We do this. And I got it going and she kind of walked off. And I was like, what happened? And. And later she had told me that she kind of rung her bell a little bit, and I was like, you gotta be careful. [00:03:26] Speaker B: Yeah, it would have been funny if you had been like, the spirits of God, right. [00:03:29] Speaker C: They got be taken over. [00:03:32] Speaker D: But it was a fun experience. And then it was hit the ground running for eight episodes. We're contracted each year for eight episodes. And. Yeah, that's cool. [00:03:40] Speaker A: That's awesome. Yeah. I gotta admit, when I was preparing for this episode, I saw Ghostbusters 1 and 2. [00:03:48] Speaker D: That. That right there is. It's required. I. [00:03:50] Speaker A: For me, I. I heard your. I think it was your pod. You guys have a personal podcast, by. [00:03:55] Speaker D: The way, Paranormal Distortion. [00:03:57] Speaker A: Awesome name, dude. [00:03:58] Speaker D: I love that. Thank you. [00:03:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. I think it was there on your story about the spook central name. [00:04:02] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:04:03] Speaker A: Where it came from. So that was pretty cool. [00:04:04] Speaker D: Yeah, it was. I'll never forget sitting the movie every year. Of course, I'm a big ghost head, and that's what they call people who are love Ghostbusters. I mean, she should know. [00:04:14] Speaker C: I do. [00:04:15] Speaker D: So I. I bought a 1962 millimeter ambulance, which you, you know, I'm sure you've seen on my TikTok. And I've converted it to a 59. So every year when they show Ghostbusters, like, I've got to go watch it. It's. Yes, it's tradition. [00:04:26] Speaker A: That's cool. [00:04:27] Speaker D: So we're sitting there, and we're all in there watching it, and Dan Aykroyd's on the screen. He goes, hey, your girlfriend lives at the corner of spook central. And from out of nowhere, I see this hand and slaps me, and she goes, that's where you got it? I'm like, yeah, that's where I got it. [00:04:40] Speaker C: Yes, that was me in the theater. [00:04:41] Speaker D: Yeah. So it was like. But, yeah, it was one day I was just watching Ghostbusters, and I was like, corpus Christi spooks central. Man, that's. That's got a ring to does. [00:04:51] Speaker B: Yeah, it's so cool because, like, when Ghostbusters came out, I watched it in theaters, the original, like, five times in one day. Oh, I love that movie. [00:05:02] Speaker D: Same here. [00:05:04] Speaker B: Changed my perspective of. Of the paranormal as a kid. And. And I don't care what anybody says. Like, in Ghostbusters afterlife, when Egon's ghost showed up at the end, I'm not ashamed to admit I teared up. [00:05:18] Speaker D: Yo, I did. [00:05:19] Speaker B: Every time since when I watched that movie, I still get a. Like I said, it was a big part of my childhood. So that's one of the things that sparked my fascination. I was like, they have books on ghosts. Like, where do I find these? Like, I need to get them right away. [00:05:37] Speaker C: And it's amazing the number of books there are about ghosts, about the paranormal. Like, you really don't realize that until you start looking into the paranormal. And then it's like, there's a whole section of paranormal books. [00:05:47] Speaker A: So what inspired y' all personally to dive into the paranormal? [00:05:52] Speaker C: So I was kind of grandfathered in. I've always had experiences, like a kid and as an adult, but I never was somebody who was like, oh, I want to go and investigate the paranormal. That's how we met. He was having a public event, and some friends talked me into going. I was very like, no, let's not do that. Let's do something else. But I went anyways, and I called him the nerdy guy behind the computer. [00:06:12] Speaker D: That came back to home. [00:06:14] Speaker C: Here we are. So when they. When I. We first got together, they were still doing investigations, so I would tag along here and there. And then when they came for the show, it was kind of like, hey, you're kind of the business mind of this relationship. I need you to be part of this. And so I kind of got grandfathered in on the whole paranormal thing. I do believe I had experiences, but that's kind of what got me into it. [00:06:37] Speaker D: In all reality, I've always been into the paranormal. Like, the house we grew. That I grew up in, there was always something happening. Like, after my grandfather passed away, a friend of mine were in the backyard. It was late. We probably were up to no good. And all of a sudden, from the back window, we could hear my grandfather go, monty Carlos, you boys shouldn't be outside. It's dangerous. He looked at me, I looked at him. He goes, you know? I said, yeah. And he is. Yeah. He never came back to my house. And there was other things. Footsteps. I mean, the whole realm of just things moving. Doors closing, dishes clattering. There was never a dull moment in that house, and it scared me. But then when my mom, I guess, ghost hunters came out, and I was watching that show, and then when everything inside our shop started happening, I was like, well, this is what we do. Let's turn the lights out and go down the shop. And I had this Camaro seat sitting off to the side, and we're walking down the center of it, and all of a sudden, you could see, like, a black mass shadow standing in front of us. And that seat that was all the way off to the side was now laying in front of us, moved on its own. And then, of course, we contact the other group. She wanted to do it. And then I kind of like, okay. And that's kind of how. Yeah, everything kind of started. [00:07:52] Speaker A: Wow. [00:07:52] Speaker C: I never even thought about investigating the paranormal. I thought it was just something that was there. And so actually investigating was kind of different for me. Like, I never thought, oh, that's something I'm gonna do. [00:08:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:01] Speaker C: And then here I am, like. [00:08:02] Speaker A: Like, you know, it's there. It's like, let's go mess with it some more, right? Yeah. [00:08:05] Speaker C: Let's just see if it's there. And it happens. It happens. It is what it is. But I never thought it would be something that I would actually seek to go and do. But being able to actually help people, I think, has been kind of the neat thing about it. [00:08:17] Speaker D: And that is something a lot of people don't understand just because we're investigators. You know, the city of Corpus and the surrounding areas have been so open and good to us that women able to do events to give back to the community. You know, toys for tots, local investigations to benefit historical places. We did ghost tours for six or seven years down Heritage park. And every dime from any of those went back to the homes. We've never accepted anything from this. There is no money to be made in the paranormal. I got to meet Jason and Grant when they came down, investigated the Lexington and Grant said if you make it your first year, you're doing good. If you're around your the second year, you've got it made. And he goes, don't ever. There's no money in the paranormal. Don't expect money for the paranormal. Don't expect fame, nothing like that. Do it for the right reasons. And you know, we work with children, organizations like special Hearts in the arts. October 25th, we're doing a public paranormal investigation in Burclair, Texas at the Berkeley mansion. And we've already sold out the 9 o' clock investigation. And all the money from that's going to go to help the floors, put a new roof, do a lot of the, you know, restorate and upkeep of the location. [00:09:23] Speaker C: But even helping people personally, right. Like have lost somebody and they just want that last connection of being like, are they still watching over me? [00:09:29] Speaker D: Right. [00:09:30] Speaker C: That's even, you know. Yeah, that's cool to be able to help people with that also. [00:09:35] Speaker B: Yeah, I always tell people you actually lose money in paranormal investigations because you have to buy the equipment. A lot of times equipment is not cheap, right? [00:09:43] Speaker D: Oh no. [00:09:44] Speaker B: You know, you can get certain things off of Amazon that are maybe $12, whatever. But then when you get to the I, you know, quote unquote good equipment, that's when you, you know, looking at 4, 500, 600, $700 for an ovus, you know, it's. [00:10:00] Speaker D: And the prices have gone up on those things. I've got, I've got the second one that ever came out and I think we paid 100 bucks for it off of ebay. And now I see them going for three grand on eBay. And I'm like, three grand's what I saw. That's what they were asking. I don't know if anybody paid it, but I was just like, why is it so much? Be very careful with it. Very careful. [00:10:18] Speaker A: You think it's the influx of invest more investigators wanting to investigate. [00:10:23] Speaker D: I think it's TV shows, I think it's the entertainment aspects. You know, we're right here next October where all that comes more in the Open. It's more talked about because it is the spooky months and people see it on TV and some people have a passion for it and they go out and investigate. And some people just want a really good scare. [00:10:41] Speaker C: I think it's the curiosity of it. They see things on TV and like, oh, well, if they can do that, why can't I do that? Just like anything else. But then you also have people that have lost loved ones and like, well, if they can reach out and they're getting these things on tv, not realizing the things that happen on TV nine times out of ten aren't going to happen. [00:10:58] Speaker A: Wow. [00:10:59] Speaker C: Right. That you can go investigate a building for 10 hours and nothing happens where if you watch it on tv, it looks like happens every five minutes. [00:11:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:07] Speaker D: Investigations are boring. They are. They are very. You get to about the one or two o' clock and you've said, do you want me to get out a hundred times already? And, And. But there's always. You can do 10 investigations and get any, not get anything. Then there's that one that keeps you going for another 10. [00:11:21] Speaker A: Oh, wow. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. What's. What's going on? Anthony Diaz on YouTube. Thanks for joining the. The YouTube chat. Yeah. You mentioned something interesting about the community, how they, like, kind of work with you, I guess. Is there like a maybe like a highlight or something that you. Well, you mentioned the heritage and all that stuff like that. Did you think that that would happen? One. [00:11:43] Speaker D: No. You know, starting out it, I didn't think something like that would happen. But, you know, I was raised to leave a place better than what you found it. And Corpus. I know a lot of people say a lot about Corpus, good and bad. I love my. I love my town. This is my heart. You know, I live here, I love here, and I'll do anything for my city. And being able to give back to these historical homes, to keep them around another 100 years is, to me is worth it because a lot of Corpus's history, it disappears each day. [00:12:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:18] Speaker D: And, you know, we'll tell anybody, you cannot have paranormal without history. You can't have history without paranormal. It goes hand in hand. And being able to get in these locations and give back, I mean, when we first started doing it, they. They asked us, well, how much do you want to get paid? I said, nothing. And they looked at me like I was crazy. Like, you're willing to do this for nothing? No, I don't want anything. Nothing. I said, I. I just want to be able to give Back to the community and meeting everybody, I think, in one night. Our very last ghost tour down at Heritage Park, I think we ran, man, it had to have been a couple hundred people. We wrapped it around the park. Yeah. And we raised quite a bit of money to put the benches, to fix porches in the roofs and stuff like that, so. [00:12:59] Speaker A: So cool. Yeah. The jazz festival is coming up. It's gonna. It's. It's over there every year. Yeah, I love jazz. Real quick, shout out to. I guess this is the sponsor spot. I had one last episode, but I guess you can check out Corpus Christi originals dot com. I got merch there to help support the podcast. Yeah. So check that out. Appreciate you guys, paranormal experiences and stories. Let's see. What's the most chilling case you've ever investigated in Corpus Christi? [00:13:27] Speaker D: Oh, wow. Oh, I've done so many. Now, of course, the one that everybody wants to talk about, the one that we were featured on Discovery Channel show a haunting. I won't say the name of the street. It's easy to find. And a lot of people ask, why don't we say the name of the street? We made a promise. And when we make a promise to keep a residential investigation confidential, we do it. Unfortunately, the newspaper guy wrote the article about it, but he was a little smart. Went to the people who were renting the house, and, you know, but I'd have to say that investigation's up there, at least in the top three. That how you did not feel welcomed in that house? I mean, it was. Every time you walked in, it was an energy of just hate, of just, you know, some of the EVPs, it's like on TV, it says, I'm here for the girl, but the real EVP said, I'm here for the child. And it focused a little bit on because there was two other children there. Of course, they didn't feature that on tv because it's tv and they were underage at the time. But it focused around the children of the home, and it was just something that was going after them to the point of they, you know, it's real. Where he tries to get the door open, and that's missing it. He couldn't get the door open. It was like it was a brick wall. They couldn't get through it. Another one would be Sidbury House down Heritage Park. That, to me, out of all the places, would be one of the most haunted historical homes in Corpus. One night, we were gonna do a tour, and I set up cameras in there so people can watch and See for themselves, get an experience what an investigation is like. And our tech guy was upstairs, set up a camera, and he was, of course, setting it up, and it was facing behind him. And all of a sudden there was an apparition of a person that just started appearing behind him. And we're all looking at the monitor going, david, David. And it just disappeared. But of course, we weren't recording. Yeah, we were just setting up. [00:15:19] Speaker C: That's the way it works. [00:15:20] Speaker D: It always works. [00:15:22] Speaker B: Always happens like that. [00:15:24] Speaker C: It's like the spirits know. [00:15:25] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:15:26] Speaker B: We went to one place, man, I. For the life of me, I can't think of the. The name right now, but it was like six hours away. And we got to investigate the home during the day. And I always tell people, you know, yeah, investigating at night is awesome, but when you get activity during the day, that's a whole other experience. Oh, yeah, because there's. There's no rules that says it only has to happen at night. So when stuff happens during the day, it's like, wow, like, I can't believe we just caught this. Or, you know, this just happened. That just moved over there. We heard footsteps, like, what is going on? You know, And. And that's. To me, I. I prefer a daytime investigation sometimes because there's who, again, who investigates during the day, who stops to think about that. So there's. Who knows what we're missing, you know, just because we're only investigating at night. So I just, like, I just want to throw that out there. So if anybody's watching, try daytime investigation. [00:16:32] Speaker C: I think that's something that I wish the television shows would take into consideration. Is it not always being the dark, the haunted at night time? Because there are times during the day that things do happen. I've worked places that things happen during the day. We. I. One place that I worked, I won't say where it is, but we had a table tennis table that we had folded up, and the thing literally spun on its own. Well, can't explain it. It's the middle of the day. So, I mean, things do happen during the day. And I think you're right. When you actually capture something during the day, it's a completely different level of paranormal activity because you're not expecting it. [00:17:06] Speaker A: Yeah, y' all use EVPs. What is. What does that mean? What's the acronym? [00:17:12] Speaker C: Electronic Voice Phenomenon. [00:17:14] Speaker A: Oh, okay. So like audio, right? [00:17:16] Speaker C: It's basically like an audio recorder you would buy, like, if you were in school and you're recording your teacher talk or you're recording a Meeting. So basically because our ears can only hear a certain number of volume, 300. [00:17:26] Speaker D: MHz and below, our human ears can't pick. [00:17:28] Speaker A: Wow. [00:17:29] Speaker D: That's why we use audio recorders and parabolic mics. [00:17:32] Speaker A: Oh wow, that's interesting. So EVPs, photos, video, obviously you guys use that stuff. Is there any, anything that you captured that is like undeniable evidence? [00:17:42] Speaker C: I would say an EVP that you know for a fact somebody wasn't in the room with you and you can definitely tell what they're saying. There's been times, because I listened to our EVPs and there's times that I'm listening to audio and I know for a fact that that person wasn't there. For example, Old Girls Kitchen in Kingsville, Texas, it was like 12:30, one o' clock in the morning and we literally caught a child laughing. There's no children there. But you know how like a two or three year old just has that infectious giggle. Right. You can't make up. And I was listening to it and that happened and I was like, whoa, wait a minute, let me replay this. [00:18:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:15] Speaker C: And sure enough, it, that's what it was. Or catching a female voice when you know there was only men in the room, or vice versa, a man's voice when you know there's only females in the room. And so stuff like that that you know for sure wasn't, shouldn't be there. [00:18:29] Speaker D: Right? [00:18:29] Speaker A: Yeah. You had something. [00:18:31] Speaker B: No, no, no. I'm still trying to remember the name of that place that I would, it started with a B. I don't know if it was like Barton Street House or something. [00:18:38] Speaker D: That sounds familiar. Barn Street House sounds familiar a little bit. [00:18:40] Speaker B: Yeah. And like I said, about six, six and a half hours away. And that place was incredible. Like the, the energy there, it was never, it was spooky, but it was never scary. Yeah, I, I, if I could think of it, I'll, I'll, I'll say it. [00:18:54] Speaker D: But the one EVP that still kind of gets to me, I've got a private one which I believe is a love one that passed away. But the one I'm getting ready to talk about, it's the Yoakum Hospital. But we were just talking about a little bit before we started and we were up there investigating. This hospital is in a residential area and there's a story that goes behind it. But the evidence we captured sounded like a shotgun blast going off down a hallway and it echoes. You can hear it engaging around, clicking and going off. So one person will do on investigation Will do the historical research, because none of us want to know until after. Because if we get something, if we know beforehand, it's kind of tainting the evidence as we're going in. And if we can connect the history with the paranormal, it makes it, the evidence, a little more credible. So after that said and done, we start looking at the history of it. Well, there was a murder there. [00:19:47] Speaker A: Whoa, that's crazy. [00:19:49] Speaker D: And the story goes is that basically a man was distraught because his wife was leaving him. So he goes up there, he's got a jacket on. Where's my wife at? Oh, she's on the second floor. She delivered children. So he goes up there, she comes out, starts yelling at him. He doesn't say a word. He pulls a gun out, puts it to her head, pulls the trigger. Now, the urban legend behind it is, is the blood spots there. As many times they replaced the carpet, the blood stop. The blood spot continues to come back. So I had made friends with the law enforcement officer up there because he had stopped by. We investigated like four or five times. So I called him up and I said, hey, you know about that. That crime? He goes, yeah. He goes, well, I was real young. I was a rookie on the forest that time. I said, hey, what was the weapon used during that crime? He goes, it was a 12 gauge pump shotgun. Wow. Yep. And you can hear it clearly. And we had an off duty CCPD officer that was with us on that investigation. Mind you, if a shotgun goes off in that building in a neighborhood area, residential area, we're gonna have cops over there swatting us. Yeah. So there was that. And then, of course, I. I believe that I have an evp and it's not posted anywhere because it's really personal. But after my uncle passed away, it was probably about three or four days after my uncle passed away. We were doing a ghost tour down at Heritage park and we were adding the Google, I think it was Guggenheim house to the tour. And I was like, well, I want to do some EVPs, because I like to play them before people start walking them, walking the homes. And I wasn't able to be down there for that little mini investigation. But upon reviewing it, I got a voice that sounded just like him. It says, please let me go. [00:21:26] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:21:27] Speaker D: And I've shared it for a few family members, but I've never posted it out anywhere. [00:21:31] Speaker B: It's. [00:21:32] Speaker D: It's, you know, completely private. But, yeah, those are a couple pieces of evidence that still kind of. It chokes you up a little bit. [00:21:37] Speaker A: Yeah, right on. Thanks. A lot. Miguel and Facebook. I guess he agrees with investigating during the day. Awesome. Yeah. Y', all, you mentioned the B place and you mentioned Kingsville. So what makes South Texas, this region, stand out for hauntings? [00:21:56] Speaker C: I think it's the history. Just everything that's happened down here, you know, in the past. I mean, you think about the different. The 1900 hurricane, the different trade things that have come through here just over time. And like you said, without history, you don't have paranormal. Without paranormal, you don't have history. And as somebody like me who is not a big history buff, doing the paranormal has brought me into the history world. Right. So I can correlate. Right. [00:22:23] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:22:23] Speaker C: I can correlate the two together. And we've gotten that from fans, too. They'll come in and say, you know, I never really was into the history part of things, but now that you mention it and bring it that way, or people who are into the paranormal, into history, not into paranormal. [00:22:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:35] Speaker C: Vice versa. [00:22:36] Speaker A: Wow. [00:22:37] Speaker C: But I think it's just the area that we live in and all the different things that have happened. [00:22:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, I mean, that we have one of the oldest cemeteries. Right. Military cemeteries or something. [00:22:44] Speaker D: I think it's Bayside. I think it's Bayside. [00:22:47] Speaker C: I don't know. [00:22:47] Speaker D: Not Bayside. [00:22:49] Speaker A: Right. [00:22:50] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:22:51] Speaker A: That's. That the one you're talking about? [00:22:52] Speaker D: I think so. [00:22:52] Speaker A: Okay. [00:22:52] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:22:53] Speaker A: Yeah. That's cool, man. Let's see. Do you believe that all spirits are harmful? And can some people be protective or peaceful? Or can some be protective or peaceful? [00:23:05] Speaker C: I think it could be a mixture of both. [00:23:06] Speaker D: In all reality, I really think that if you were mean in life, you're mean in death. If you have that. If you were nice in life, you're nice. And in death, I mean, I've experienced both, you know, or there's something. I mean, I can't say it's a demon or something demonic or anything comes close to that definition of things. But. But yeah, I think if, you know, if you really look at it, if. If you're that type of person on earth, I mean, I could only imagine when your time comes and you're out into the universe, wherever we go, that you. You still carry that same type of energy and whatever that energy is. So. [00:23:41] Speaker C: Yeah, because they're all made of energy. [00:23:43] Speaker A: Right. [00:23:43] Speaker C: So your energy is going to be your energy no matter where your energy is. [00:23:47] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:23:48] Speaker A: So. So they can't. So I guess the paranormal, can they harm you? I guess that's like my thing because I'm like a big Scaredy cat. So I'm like, can they, like, hurt you? You know what I mean? If. If he was to investigate. I mean, is that a question that comes up? You know what I mean? [00:24:02] Speaker C: I mean, we've been scratched. I got scratched on the USS Lexington on the back of my leg, which doesn't make any sense because you're not really facing that way when you're going up and down things. He's been scratched at some of the jails we've gone to. [00:24:14] Speaker D: My mom was choked at the. Well, it felt like choking. I can't say she was, but we were at the old Lavaka County Jail. [00:24:21] Speaker C: I felt like I got choked. Rialto Theater in Beville. [00:24:25] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:24:25] Speaker C: But I didn't feel harmed the whole time it was happening. It was more like they were trying to get our attention. I couldn't catch my breath, but yet it felt like somebody had their hand, like, in the deep part of my throat. But I didn't feel scared. Like, they kept telling me to leave, and I was like, I don't want to leave. Like, I want to stay here. [00:24:40] Speaker D: The. The old saying is. Is that, you know, the dead can't hurt you. It's the living. So always be careful of the living, because you'll hurt yourself a lot more times than you want. [00:24:49] Speaker B: So I know, for me, I always tell people, like, because we. We investigated Yorktown, and they're saying, you know how dangerous Yorktown is. I'm like, come on. No one's ever. No one's ever died during an investigation there, so the worst they could do is scratch you. I was like, I like getting scratched on my back, so. [00:25:05] Speaker C: Give us the spot. [00:25:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:07] Speaker A: Yeah. The noises massacre in 1962. 1860. Oh, shoot. That's way back there. Appreciate you, Anthony. Yeah, Anthony has a. A historical podcast himself. [00:25:21] Speaker B: He's our guy in the. Our guy in the chair. [00:25:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:24] Speaker D: That's awesome. [00:25:25] Speaker A: Yeah. It has ever. Has there ever been a case where you're like, this is too much. I gotta go. You know what I mean? [00:25:31] Speaker D: I can't say that nothing really comes up to mind that I can sit there and say that there's no way I would go back? And we pretty much. [00:25:38] Speaker C: Those are the ones I want to go to. [00:25:39] Speaker A: Oh, crazy. [00:25:40] Speaker D: Well, it's kind of like when we did Fluff's White House in Floresville. And I'm watching the episode, and the whole story behind the mirror is demonic. It's a portal. And I'm like. And I'm sitting there watching myself on TV go. If you Want me to touch this mirror, you know, and I'm like, touch the mirror and I'm literally looking at myself. Why didn't I touch the mirror? So come on, Monty. You gotta. Come on. You know better. Come on. [00:26:05] Speaker C: But, yeah, those are the ones to me, I think would be intriguing, right, because you go to certain investigations and you. You hear, well, this is going to happen, or this might happen, but to me, okay, let it happen. Show to me that this is here. [00:26:16] Speaker B: That's why I'm here. [00:26:17] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:26:20] Speaker A: That'S pretty cool. [00:26:20] Speaker B: Let's see that. That is one thing that, like, bothers me about paranormal investigation shows. When they're like, if you can, you know, if you're here, turn this device on, and then the device turns on, and then they go running out the door. Yeah, you literally just asked them and they're giving it to you. I would be like, all right, thank you. You know, let's. Let's try something else. You know, there'. [00:26:42] Speaker A: Fish. You want to bite my sandwich? [00:26:44] Speaker D: It's like that. It's like that meme with Ben Affleck where it shows him standing there with a cigarette, and it's like another paranormal group comes in. He's like, oh, just. Really? It's right. I did what you asked. Now you're running. Why? [00:26:58] Speaker A: Yeah, I like that. That face on that meme. What location in South Texas do you think is the most haunted? [00:27:06] Speaker D: I think that is still left to be discovered, and I don't think that that will be found in my lifetime. I think each investigation, each place, you know, like. Like, here's a really good one. Blackbeards on the beach. I've seen other groups go in there, and they. They don't come out with anything. We went there three times, but it was on the last time that we got that. That apparition on the. In the back bar area. I think it's for personal experiences. That's really what you can only go off of until there's really a database that all groups can come together with evidence and that really show that that's the one place we get the most evidence, because every place claims to be the most haunted. But for our investigations through 21 years, the most haunted would have to be a residential investigation in Taft, Texas. Yeah, that we went there, I think, a total of 12 times. And it was. There was even a priest brought in to that investigation. That's. Yeah, it was the sulfur smell. I mean, it was. It was pretty bad. [00:28:04] Speaker B: That sounds demonic. [00:28:05] Speaker D: Yeah, it was to the point of was there was one night, we were doing EVPs, and I was using the parabolic mic, and my tech guy was over in one corner. We. He wasn't saying nothing. I was sitting there, and I got a voice that came across that said, constantine, it won't work. And of course, you know, I'm a goofball sometimes on investigations like, yeah, Constantine, Keanu Reeves, a good movie. And David looks at me and goes, what did you say? I said, constantine said, it's not going to work. Good movie. No, no, no. Come here. And he takes his hand and he holds it out like this. And he had the medal of God. He goes, I was praying to myself, oh, wow. He goes, I didn't say nothing because it was in my own head that I was praying because it's. It was so bad. I watched my headphone wires lift up and kind of. And then sulfur smelled. The priest didn't even stay that long. And citrus smell, for whatever reason, you'd get blast. Like you were in with wind of just citrus, and it would engulf you. [00:29:03] Speaker B: And this. [00:29:03] Speaker D: The smell would just stay on you. [00:29:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:05] Speaker D: But just everything from the sighting of a little girl inside the house to what the family was experiencing, it was almost like Amityville kind of style. How the family arguing all the time at each other's throats, the kids doing bad in school, stuff like that. But once they left the home, it. All the family was back together, everybody was happy. [00:29:26] Speaker B: So then it was the. It was the house, not the family, that was haunted. Interesting. [00:29:31] Speaker D: But the. The thing about it was there was a table supposedly in this house. And the story that they were told was, is that there was Wiccan and. And stuff, practice on it. And they were told to burn the table, so that's what they did. And of course, it was the blackest smoke they've ever seen. Stuff like that. Well, I was like, well, that can be debunked. You know, it could be oils in the wood, stuff like that. But after they burned it all the. The activity picked up fivefold. Oh, wow. [00:29:57] Speaker B: So, yeah, something could have been containing it. And then you destroy the vessel, has nowhere to go, so. [00:30:03] Speaker D: And a lot of people don't realize sometimes bringing home antiques, you get a little. You get something a little more than what you. I've done it a few times. [00:30:09] Speaker A: Wow. We. [00:30:10] Speaker B: We just bought a chair at. At Goodwill. Really nice, sturdy chair. The first thing I tell my wife is, you're gonna cleanse it before it comes in the house. [00:30:16] Speaker A: Right. So you're a skeptic believer. [00:30:24] Speaker B: I'm I believe, but at the same time I'm extremely skeptical because to me, like I said, if there's a, if there's a cup, let's say the cup sliding across the, the surface of a table, my first thought isn't I gotta get out of here or whatever. My first thought is maybe there's condensation if the table's off a little, you know, off level. So the, it's creating that kind of slide, whatever, where it can go. So my thing is, is I'm very skeptical, so I want to eliminate everything to where at the end of it. There's no doubt that whatever just happened was paranormal. [00:31:00] Speaker D: Exactly. [00:31:01] Speaker B: So it's, it's, I guess you could say like a very scientific way to think about it. But I'm just not like, oh, everything is, is paranormal or everything is not paranormal. There's a happy medium somewhere. I just happen to lean more towards. There's got to be a rational explanation first. And then if it's not, then okay, yeah, we tried everything else. All that's left is paranormal. [00:31:26] Speaker D: So. And that's what we tell everybody is we. For 21 years, we told everybody, be skeptical. I want you to question everything. Because, yes, we have a belief that there's something beyond this. I mean, if you look in outer space, I know UFOs has been a big deal on the news with the government stuff. It's like, if there's something like that out there, anything can be possible. But question everything, not everything is paranormal. Don't jump straight to the conclusion something is haunted. You know, investigate it, question it, look at it from every side. It was like someone that contacted us because her angel would turn and she wanted an investigation. So we go to the house, do a preliminary kind of walk through on the other side of the walls, the washing machine. And it's like, I was like, ma', am, could you, could you go do a laundry load of laundry real quick? And she didn't guess what. The angel turned. [00:32:15] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:32:17] Speaker D: It's like an experience of mine. We lived in the house out in Flower Bluff. And for whatever reason, one night I was upstairs and I've. I had seen a couple things in the house and I always just kind of, yeah, don't ever investigate where you lay your head. I learned that a long time ago. But there was a little like wet bar. And one night I walked past it and the water came on by itself. Oh. So I walked around, I turned it off, I walked back around, it turned itself back on. Now anybody can sit there and go, it's the pressure stuff. But I'm sitting there going, it's never done that before. So I walk around, I turned it off, and I went, listen, if y' all want it on, turn it on. I'm not turning it back off. I'm going downstairs, I'm going to bed. And it didn't turn itself back on, but I couldn't explain it. But I can't say that it is paranormal. It's just something that's unexplainable, that I'll take with the rest of my life as an experience. [00:33:09] Speaker A: So it's awesome. Yeah. So you mentioned, like, history, how it's part of it. So the next. Next segment we're talking about is culture, history and legends, I guess. And real quick, before I talk about that, like, I've heard people, like, in Corpus, like, if they're in a house, a new house, they're like, has somebody. Did somebody die in this house? You know what I mean? People ask that. You know what I mean? And I'm like, I don't know. Why does it feel weird? But so how do Mexican American and coastal Bend cult cultural traditions shape local ghost stories? [00:33:42] Speaker C: I mean, I would think it does shape it because, I mean, your culture is your culture, right. You grow up how you grow up, and one person may believe something somebody else doesn't believe. And so you're gonna grow up hearing lure throughout your culture. Right. One family member passes it to another family member and so forth. And so I think it just shapes it. Like, I mean, you have the story of. I'm gonna say it wrong. La Verona. Right. And so you hear people tell that story over and over again, but you're gonna run into somebody else. It's like, what are you talking about? But then they're going to say, oh, the story of the crying lady across the road or Wines for her children. Right. And they're like, oh, that's this in my culture. [00:34:14] Speaker D: Or Chapita Rodriguez. [00:34:15] Speaker C: Right, right. Or Chipita Rodriguez. Right. And so I think culture has a lot to do with just anything, no matter where you're from, even if you're not from South Texas, we can go to Arizona and they're going to know the same stories, even though they're not from South Texas. So it kind of just depends on your culture in general, what your background is. [00:34:32] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:34:33] Speaker A: So. So you'll see that overlap between cultures. [00:34:36] Speaker C: And we even see that online. We posted a story. I don't remember what it. What it was called on Facebook the other day. And people were coming in there, commenting. Oh, we call it this here. And they were, like, up north somewhere. [00:34:46] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:34:47] Speaker C: But they were. They knew what we were talking about. [00:34:49] Speaker B: So, like, the La Llorona, I guess she. She gets around because, like, she was in California. Because there was a video posted, you know, in California that they're saying, like, oh, you can hear the cries of La Llorona, you know, by the water and all that. But it's just a drainage ditch that had water going, right? [00:35:05] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:35:06] Speaker C: And I'm all like, come on, it's the mom sitting here. [00:35:10] Speaker B: And see, that's that sky. Like. Like she got frequent flyer miles. Like, she gets around more than I do. Come on. [00:35:18] Speaker C: Or even, like, the Chupacabra. Like, I've heard stories, people in New York saying they saw the Chupacabra, and. [00:35:23] Speaker D: I'm like, it's like Bigfoot. [00:35:24] Speaker C: Were they on the jersey? What's happening here? [00:35:28] Speaker B: Those are giant rats. [00:35:29] Speaker A: Rats. [00:35:32] Speaker B: R O U S. [00:35:35] Speaker A: Yeah, Cuckui. [00:35:36] Speaker D: That's the. [00:35:37] Speaker A: I'm like, what is that? You know, we just grew up saying it, you know, that. [00:35:40] Speaker B: That's just like a generic kind of boogeyman term. [00:35:44] Speaker D: Whatever. [00:35:45] Speaker A: Anything going to get you. [00:35:46] Speaker C: Right. And the movies don't help that any, Right, because they made a movie after Laona, right? And it was their movie that came out. And so. And like, the Boogeyman movie, like, yo. [00:35:55] Speaker A: Real quick, Shout out to the Night Creature Productions, they actually made a movie, you know. You know that. [00:36:02] Speaker D: Do you know, I don't know personally, but I've ran into them a couple times with some events. I've seen some of their stuff. We follow each other on Facebook. They're. That's great. [00:36:08] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah. They made one on El Coco. [00:36:10] Speaker B: I was about to say that Anthony beat me to it. The Chico Cabra originated in Puerto Rico. So, yeah, it got here somehow. Have you heard of the Montauk Monster? Okay. Because that gets into, like, Cryptids and stuff. But apparently the. They think that the Chupacabra was the Montauk Monster or a version of the Montauk Monster that was like some kind of hairless thing, whatever that was on the shores of someplace. I'm sure Anthony will chime in 50 states of Terry, y' all gotta check out this podcast. Yeah, but just so some hairless animals showed up and. And people just automatically, that's Chupacabra. And then they tested it and turned out to be something else. But at least I think that's how it went. But I. I don't know. Like I said, I'm. I'm skeptical of that because it's like coyotes. I mean. [00:37:02] Speaker D: But, you know. But you know, what I love about it is I love. Because we. There was a location that we were trying to get. It was a big debacle about. It was a yes, then a no. But we were trying to feature this season on the show. And basically we were told that ghost stories and legends like that don't play a part in Texas history. And I'm like, it does. That is what part of Texas history is built on, is these stories that's passed down from generation to generation and how they transcend us. They. They're just not right here. They're. They're in Mexico. They're in Oklahoma. They're everywhere around the world. Everybody has their own versions of it. And it's amazing to see how those stories change in each region and how it just keeps those stories alive. I love that aspect of all this. [00:37:46] Speaker A: So cool. So regarding, like, stories and stuff. Deal. And before you do an investigation, do you do research and how much do you. How much research do you do? [00:37:55] Speaker D: Or we try to dig as deep as possible. [00:37:57] Speaker B: We'll. [00:37:58] Speaker D: We usually rotate where we choose one person. Like, okay, it's your turn to do it. And they go investigate the history, the location, and everything they can find about it. And they'll compile it in the file, and then it's just buried until after the investigation. So then it was like, well, we got this name. Well, wait, I got this on history. That name. Just like that hospital. Tell me about the shotgun. We had gotten an EVP from there. Says, I'm Dr. Trott. Well, after doing the historical research, there was a doctor there that worked there. He had a heart attack after delivering a baby. Makes it back to his office, collapsed. They transport him to Houston, where he passed away in transit. But we got a male EVP. It said, hi, I'm Dr. Trott. Well, we did the Rob Moore research. His family practice is still there. So the word gets to his daughter, who is still alive. So we bring her in the hospital. We go up to the room where he delivered babies. Mind you, this is the dead of summer, heat and sweat like crazy. And that room turned ice cold. She got in there and she was crying. We got responses on evp. Of course, we went through it. I don't have any of those anymore. I gave them to her for private. That was a private moment for her. But it was one of those moments where it was like, really where you could see the other side connecting with what's still here. And, you know, that's why we always say, you know, do that history research, that history will connect, and that will give you even more legitimately to the evidence that you capture. [00:39:30] Speaker A: Speaking of research, I want to talk about a boogeyman that some of our listen. Listeners think is a boogeyman, which is AI. Do y' all use that for research or. [00:39:39] Speaker D: I've used it. I'm guilty of using it a little here and there. I. I like. I like freaking her out on the whole. It has a voice and talks to you. I like. [00:39:48] Speaker B: I like that. I mean, I think it's interesting. Of course, Anthony will probably be like, you know, he's one of the devils, but, I mean, I. I understand where he's coming from, but at the same time, it's like any other tool. [00:40:01] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. [00:40:02] Speaker B: It's just. How. How much power are we going to give this thing? You know, that's my concern. But I will. I will use it. Just. I'll use it as a starting point and then take it from there, you know, that's where you give it that human touch. [00:40:15] Speaker D: Yeah, she gets on me sometimes. I'll write stuff, and she's like, this is wrong. That's wrong. It's like, fine, I'll just throw it in. I'll. I'll humanize it. We'll be all right. You know, so it'll make sense. But, you know, like I was telling her, I said, wouldn't it be crazy to take like, chat gbt, put it on the voice thing, take it to investigation and have it do EVP work? Yeah, I haven't seen anybody. I haven't seen anybody do that yet. And it's like, man, I just leave it sitting in a room, set a camera up and let. If it starts talking to something, it's picking something up. [00:40:45] Speaker B: Yeah, set a. A recorder or something. Yeah, capture that one. That's. Yeah, I like that idea. [00:40:51] Speaker A: That's next level, bro. [00:40:52] Speaker B: That's what I was gonna like that idea. [00:40:53] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask. Like, do you. How do you. How advanced do you think. Think AI will get from where it is now? You know what I mean? Is, do. Do we over, like, underestimate how. How powerful that it could be? [00:41:05] Speaker C: I think we do underestimate it. I mean, I think it's definitely going to be a lot more. [00:41:09] Speaker D: Oh, It's Terminator. It's T2. It's coming. [00:41:11] Speaker C: Coming. [00:41:12] Speaker D: Yeah. Well, you've got Elon designing the robots to go to Mars. You put Chat gbt in its head. I mean, that's right. Right there. [00:41:19] Speaker C: I mean, I mean, and even some of the. The apps that are out there, like Ghost Box and Ghost Box and things like that, they're all AI generated. [00:41:27] Speaker A: Those already? [00:41:28] Speaker C: Yeah. They. When we do public investigations, people will come in and they're like, I don't have any equipment. I can't afford the equipment. I'm like, you do your phone. [00:41:35] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:41:35] Speaker C: Your phone is a piece of equipment. [00:41:37] Speaker A: Wow. [00:41:38] Speaker C: And we've actually used Ghost Box. We use it. You'll see us use it on a TV show. But the only reason that I use that is because I've actually captured EVPs that correlate what comes across on that so I can validate. Okay, maybe this. Yes, it's AI generated. Yes. We use AI with this. [00:41:52] Speaker A: Wow. [00:41:53] Speaker C: But maybe it is actually worth its weight in gold because I'm actually capturing real evidence on real equipment that matches it. [00:41:59] Speaker D: But it's kind of like the obvious. A lot of people, they'll think this computer generated voice, of course, the theory is, is that the energy it picks up, it can select what words. But in all honesty, it's a digital Ouija board. If you really look at. Obviously it's a. It's a digital Ouija board. It really is. [00:42:14] Speaker A: Wow. Yeah. There's Anthony. He's chiming in. He says, Gemini. You can use Gemini. Yeah, I use Gemini sometimes. Wow. Let's see. 40, 42 minutes. I was gonna hand it over to Ben here. Ben's got some questions. [00:42:26] Speaker B: Yeah. Before y' all went on your, like, very first investigation. Right. What did y', all, like, expect it to be like? Because I. I know my preconceived notions, like, what was it for y'? [00:42:39] Speaker D: All? Well, our stories are going to be a little different because she's been doing this for 14 years with us. I'm 21 years. I can remember the first investigation. I. I want to say it was in referio. And this, actually, this investigation came back and bit me a little bit. All the years later on the show on season two or three, the Alice tattoo shot. [00:43:02] Speaker C: Season one. [00:43:04] Speaker D: No, it wasn't season one. It was season two. But we went out there and I. I didn't know what to expect. Now I was scratched on investigation. That was something that they had talked about. But I think in the back of my mind is I just didn't want to screw up and look bad in front of the homeowner. It's like I want. I want at least no them to think I know what I'm doing. I'm a rookie at this. And so many years later, the woman had contacted us because she had a shop in Alice, she owned a tattoo shop. And she was still dealing with the same. [00:43:30] Speaker C: He didn't know it was the same woman. And so we were interviewing her, she started talking. They had a moment like a mirror. [00:43:35] Speaker D: And they looked each other like she started talking. Like we had this other group come out there and I'm listening and I'm like, huh, I know that. But wait, that's me. The bad part about it was, is I was scratched on my back, right? I'm in the house. So I lift up my shirt, not knowing that I was showing my buttocks to everybody outside. Yeah, yeah. So everybody. I hear everybody just start busting laughing. And I'm like, what's everybody laughing about? And I hear on the radio, money, pull your pants up. Oh, man. But, yeah, but what is. [00:44:09] Speaker C: I don't even remember my first investigation. [00:44:11] Speaker D: I couldn't tell you. [00:44:12] Speaker C: Is that bad? [00:44:14] Speaker B: I mean, it would be. [00:44:15] Speaker D: Yo, it'd be Yorktown, I think. [00:44:16] Speaker C: No, I went to a residential with y'. [00:44:18] Speaker D: All. [00:44:18] Speaker C: Oh, that was to the one of Rockford where the guy thought we were hanging from trees. [00:44:22] Speaker D: Oh, man. Sometime soon come back, we have lots of just blooper stories where you can be here. [00:44:28] Speaker C: All right, another residential where the priest came in. [00:44:33] Speaker D: Yeah, that was Rockport. [00:44:35] Speaker C: Yes. [00:44:36] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:44:36] Speaker C: So two really odd ones in Rockport. [00:44:38] Speaker D: Yes, Shout out Rockport. [00:44:42] Speaker C: I don't know, I really, I don't think I had any preconceived notions. Like, I'm one of those people that's just like, let's just do it. Like, I'm not somebody who like overthinks, thinks things. And so I think I didn't really have any like, oh my God, this is gonna happen or that's gonna happen. It was more of a, like, let's just see what happens. I'm not an overthinker. [00:45:01] Speaker D: She's the level headed one out of the relationship. [00:45:03] Speaker A: How do you do that? [00:45:04] Speaker B: Oh my God, what's that? Like? [00:45:10] Speaker C: So I don't. I mean, if anything, it was kind of more of like, is this gonna be like it is on tv, right? Like, is anything going to happen or is this just going to be a waste of four hours I never get back in my life? [00:45:20] Speaker A: Right. [00:45:21] Speaker C: So, yeah, I guess that's pretty much mine for me. [00:45:25] Speaker B: Okay. So my first real investigation was Mineral Wells, the haunted Hill House. Now you talk about being thrown into the deep water. They. They throw you into a house. With, you know, suspected demonic activity. And I went in there thinking, like, you know, I'm gonna be like, the TV shows, and I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do that. I totally pumped out. I. I. I was telling my wife, like, don't. Don't leave me. [00:45:50] Speaker A: So. [00:45:50] Speaker B: And. And after that, after I realized, you know, that I kind of punked out, whatever, I. I kind of changed my mindset a bit. That's when I. It's like, no one's ever died during investigation. So. Next investigation was Yorktown. So I was kind of. You know, my. My buddy Scuba was all like, hey, I need you to take this camera down to the basement and put it where? [00:46:09] Speaker D: Okay. [00:46:10] Speaker B: So I went and I did. And he came back. [00:46:11] Speaker A: He. [00:46:12] Speaker B: You know, he's looking at me like, who are you? And I'm like, you know what? This is kind of my redemption, you know? So we did go back to haunted Hill House afterwards. And again, like I said, I. I conquered Hill House. [00:46:25] Speaker C: There you go. [00:46:26] Speaker B: If you can say it like that. [00:46:27] Speaker D: I mean, I still get scared on investigations. Oh, yeah. I mean, there's moments of hesitation, anxiety, and it's like, okay, it's that moment of, I'm in a jail, haunted jail, and I'm alone in the dark. What am I doing? You know? [00:46:43] Speaker C: I mean, I ran for mannequins at Yorktown. Like, I walked the whole hospital. No flashlight, nothing. And an investigator and I. She had a flashlight in her hand. And of course, at that time, they were using it for storage for a haunted house. And we had walked up that main corridor I don't know how many times, and she flicked her flashlight. My peripheral vision caught a room full of people that wasn't there the hundred times that I walked by it. And at that point, I ran. So fake stuff. [00:47:08] Speaker D: She could have qualified for the Olympics coming out that front door. I'm like, yeah. What's going on? [00:47:15] Speaker B: Doing hurdles and stuff. [00:47:16] Speaker D: Yeah. Whoa. Hello. [00:47:18] Speaker B: She get the pole ball, right? [00:47:19] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:47:21] Speaker C: Like, you walk that entire hospital with no flashlight. Now you're running. I'm like, yeah, because that room of people was not there the 10 times already walked by. So. [00:47:28] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. You were talking about. What were you talking about just now? Like, what am I doing? [00:47:35] Speaker D: Right? Yeah. [00:47:36] Speaker A: Is that. Is that, like, a form of imposter syndrome? Like, do you. Do you get that? You know what? Imposter syndrome? [00:47:40] Speaker D: No, no. I could totally. No, it's just. It's one of those moments where you can't believe you're doing what you're doing. And then everything else kind of hits and it's like, why am I doing this? It just kind of hits you all at once where it's kind of like, I've been doing this for how long? [00:47:55] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:47:56] Speaker D: And it's just kind of like, okay. And then you kind of just go back to what you're doing, but you just have those moments where I've been in locations. Like I've been in the Illinois County Courthouse. I've investigated the Illinois County Courthouse. And the first moment I walked in there and the gentleman who was in control of it handed us the keys and said, lock up when you're done. And I had that moment of out of body experience. Like, did that just. Am I where. You know how many people would love to be in my shoes? Right here. Exactly. So you have that moment of like, this is surreal. There's places in Corpus and other places I've had to sign NDAs that I cannot discuss that I've been in those locations. And just going in there, standing in those locations, and you have those, those moments where it's like, I can't believe I'm getting to do this. So, yeah, it's pretty. It's. It's surreal. [00:48:43] Speaker A: Right on, right on. Well, you got another question? [00:48:45] Speaker B: No, that's. That's a good word for. It is surreal because it really is a surreal situation because you're putting yourself, willingly putting yourself into the unknown. And that for. For humans, normal humans, that's the most terrifying thing is being, you know, where you don't. You're not in full control of your situation, of your capacities, of your senses sometimes. And it takes a lot of nerve. And, and people think like, oh, it's fake, it's this, it's that. A lot of preconceived notions. But then you guys say, well, why don't you come along? And they'd be like, yeah, so you, you have to have a kind of nerve. And I applaud the people who do it and, and who have faced it, you know, the. With. With grace and, and with humility and, and with the sense of adventure. Because it really is an adventure. [00:49:41] Speaker C: It is. Yeah. For sure. And even. And that's not to say that, like, I know, I say I like, you know, whatever happens, happens. It's. I. Every time we go into an investigation, I have that moment of like, all right, I'm not fully in control, but it's gonna be okay. Like, you have to, like, pep talk yourself, just like anything else you do. [00:49:57] Speaker D: But I also think when it Comes a moment where you walk into a place and you have no emotion, no fear, no anxiety. I think when that time comes, it's time to hang it up. Because you. You have to take in every sense of every location because you do you feel it? I mean, there's. Some people believe that houses and buildings have. They vibrate a certain frequency, and you feel that frequency inside those locations. But, you know, when that moment comes and you don't get that excitement and you don't get that fear, and you don't. You don't have those emotions, it's probably. It's my time. It's time to let you know. I told days over at Blackbeard's, you know, he was sitting there and when we did Blackbeard's season before last, and I told him, so this is our last time investigating here. And he's like, why? I said, because it's time to let someone else come in here, and it's time to let them have fun. Let's see what. Let's see what they get now. I'm. I. We opened so many doors through the years to so many locations that didn't open doors to paranormal groups. And I see groups now, and they're going into these places and the evidence they captured. Like, Steve, he's gone to a lot of places, he's captured evidence, and it's like, wow, that's awesome. And it makes me happy that we have been able. If anything, we've been able to open the door a little bit more because there was other groups before we were around. And then for the longest, we were the only group. Becky Schroland, she had Corpus Christi paranormal group. And Sabrina had the South Texas paranormal side. Those were the two groups that were here when we started. And. And of course, Corpus Christi Organization of Paranormal science. That was the group that we had joined back in the day. And that's such a long name. It's such a long name. But it's amazing to see what these groups and what the evidence they captured and if it any way connects the things that we've captured. [00:51:42] Speaker C: But that's the way it should be. It shouldn't be this big competition of like, oh, I went here and I captured. [00:51:46] Speaker B: Yeah, right. [00:51:47] Speaker C: Versus what you captured. No, it should be this big society of people working together and being. Oh, cool, you caught that. That's awesome. Not the competition. [00:51:56] Speaker D: Community, or as I call it, peri unity. Oh, there you go. [00:51:59] Speaker A: Yeah, cool. [00:52:00] Speaker B: We actually did investigate Blackbeards. My wife went with me. She had a. She was in the ladies restroom doing some EVP work when something whispered in her ear and we were like, no one was around her at the time. And so that was one of the situations that really, I don't want to say freaked her out. It just excited her. She's like, this just happened. And. And you know, you could tell she was just like, yeah, like, let's keep going, you know, so that's one of the things that, that it's never happened to me, you know, situation like that. I've never gotten touched, I've never gotten grabbed. I've never had something whisper. It's like, what is it about me that I'm not. [00:52:43] Speaker A: That's funny. Yeah. You had a question in here for years, Ben. It says, what did you learn about yourself during your first investigation or what? What have you about yourself doing these investigations? Has there any been any, like. Like reflective moments, like, you know what I'm saying? Because I feel like we're always growing. We're constantly growing. I mean, I learn stuff every day. You know, doing the podcast, you know, I learned stuff. I had some ladies yesterday. It was like the first women's edition. So even there, I had some reflective moments about myself. Do y' all have that when y' all are with. In what y' all are doing? [00:53:19] Speaker D: Oh, for me, all the time. [00:53:20] Speaker C: I would say definitely all the time. I mean, I think every investigation is a room for growth. Growth, Right. Like, it shows you that you are capable of doing something you thought you couldn't do. There's times that we go into investigations and I'm kind of like, okay, well, we've been here before. Nothing's gonna happen. But then something happens. Right? And so it's one of those things. Never doubt something. Just because you've experienced something once doesn't mean it's always going to be that way. Like, right? Because I know a lot of times, even going through life in general, like, oh, I've been in this situation. This is how it's going to turn out. Maybe it's not going to be that way this time. And so just that self reflection, I. [00:53:54] Speaker D: Think for me, it's. It's kind of opposite. It's. It's kind of strange. The paranormal has given me so much, but it's not the paranormal side of things. The paranormal gave me the love of my life. The paranormal has given me so many friends. You know, every year we play, I last couple years, she's. She's kind of ducked out a little bit of Mrs. Claus, but we do letters to Santa in the Cal Allen area. And we play Santa and we go. You know, like we said, we work with special hearts and toys for tots and just all these events that we've been a part of, that's just because of the paranormal. And, you know, last year when we did the Halloween live on tv, you know, growing up, I remember watching Chris Six watching Dale Nelson on there, watching all the. The news things, and I was like. I sat there and I was like, my goodness, look where my life has taken me. And it's those moments that. That the. The paranormal was the vehicle to take me to all these great moments in my life and give me so much and give back so much. So that to me, is kind of where I reflect on all of it. [00:55:03] Speaker A: Wow. That's cool. It's awesome, man. Yeah, I'm always. I'm always curious about people's lives and how. How they change. You know what I mean? And I guess there's people that you may think that they don't change, you know what I mean? [00:55:14] Speaker D: But you have to. You have to cut anybody that sits there and says, you know, you're never going to learn anything new. No, you learn. If you. At the end of the day, if you don't look back at that day and say, I learned something, you need to look back at the day and continue to learn and improve and evolve every single day. [00:55:31] Speaker A: That's awesome. Do you have anything else, Ben? [00:55:33] Speaker B: Well, just to add on what you're saying, like, people need to evolve. Evolution. I mean, look what happened to the dinosaurs. They didn't evolve. [00:55:39] Speaker A: So. [00:55:39] Speaker D: Exactly. [00:55:41] Speaker B: Try to avoid that kind of. [00:55:43] Speaker D: Unless it's Jurassic Park. They'll be back in a year, too. [00:55:45] Speaker C: So let me flip the switch. Switch. Whatever. Any personal experiences y' all ever had? [00:55:51] Speaker D: Yeah, go ahead. [00:55:57] Speaker A: I don't know. I guess I can. There was a guy I was working with. I was training him, right? I'm a truck driver. We were training. I was training, like, at night. And he's into like, did you see this? Did you see that? And. And he was. He got next to me one day. He was like, you see that guy over there? And. And like, it's my. My peripheral vision. I'm like, I. I think I can see. You know what I mean? I can't. And then I look over there. I'm like, no, there's nobody there. And then that was already enough for me because I'm a big scaredy cat. I'm like, no, get away from me. You know? But, I mean, I. I guess I'M skeptical. Like, maybe it's just, you know, a peripheral vision or something like that. You know what I mean? So I'm real, like, and then two. Like, I'm wondering what's the cross between, like, angelic, demonic, like, and ghosts and stuff like that too. So I'm just like, is. Is it. Is it. Which one is it? You know what I mean? So I. I kind of just leave it alone all together because I guess. Because I don't. I don't know. I guess just don't want to mess with it. [00:56:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:56:56] Speaker A: You know, so that. That's kind of my experience. My experience with it makes perfect sense. [00:57:02] Speaker B: A healthy respect. My biggest. And I don't want to say, like, paranormal experience. I didn't. And again, I'm gonna kind of build off of what he said. I don't know if it was real or not. I was driving home from Fort Hood. It was in a. We're almost. I'm almost to. [00:57:20] Speaker A: The. [00:57:21] Speaker B: The one rest stop that's outside of the city. Like, that first rest stop is right there. There's fog everywhere. I'm going through the underpass, and as I pass the underpass, I look to my side and there's a dog running alongside the road, trying to keep up with the car. But the dog is torn up. Like, you could see the skeleton and everything, like, the. The organs and all this. And the dog's face is, you know, half skull and everything. And I'm just there looking at this thing for a good 10, 15 seconds, and then a pole passes by and the dog's gone. And I'm like, did I just see what I thought I saw? Like, nah, that can't be real. And again, I couldn't go. I wasn't recording. I couldn't go back and rewind, whatever. But to me, that's like my. Okay, there's something else out there, so I wanna. I wanna find out what it is. So. That kind of lit my spark, so. [00:58:15] Speaker A: Wow, that's awesome. [00:58:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:58:17] Speaker A: Cool. Yeah. So I guess, let's see, what do we got next? I wanted to shout out some podcasts. I know you guys got one. You have another episode coming up soon. Paranormal Distortion. [00:58:26] Speaker D: Yeah, you gotta talk to her. She's. I try to keep us on schedule, she throws me off, but I'm good for fair number. [00:58:35] Speaker A: Distortion. We got a recycled corn podcast course. And then 50 states of terror. That dude Talks by Chris Longoria. He's a comedian in town. They just had the first episode come out today. Who else? The Slow Roast podcast. With Andy Blake and Joe Hillard. Check that out. It's pretty cool. Who else do I got out there? Riding High Podcast. These are all local podcasts if you want to check out. Local podcast these. There's a bunch of them. I just. Just stumbled upon a lot of them. Act actors coming together by Mario from who's part of the Night Creature production crew. They talk about act, they talk to actors. It's. It's really cool. It's really neat. And then who else? I can't remember right now. [00:59:18] Speaker B: Scuba has it. [00:59:19] Speaker A: Yes. Crypt of. Yeah, I can't remember the name of it. So. Scuba. I'm sorry. Crypt. Crypt of. I don't know. [00:59:30] Speaker B: You got the cringe. [00:59:31] Speaker A: Crypto Cringe. There you go. There you go. [00:59:32] Speaker B: Crypto Cringe Podcast. Yeah, podcast. And then of course, something somewhat supernatural. His paranormal podcast. [00:59:42] Speaker D: Yeah, it's. I'll say this, it's amazing how many podcasts are in Corpus. And they're all. They're all equally just as amazing to check out. And everybody needs to. There really is. [00:59:49] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, for sure. Cryptograms. There it is. Yeah, Check them out. Add them to your Spotify list and that way you can be notified whenever you got a new episode. Are you guys on Spotify? No, we're not on YouTube. [01:00:00] Speaker D: We're on YouTube. We have been trying to be more social media minded for a long time. We weren't social media mindful and we've tried. You know, I've got 21 years of evidence. And it was all about websites back in the days, putting everybody up on a website so people go to. Now it's YouTube. No one goes to websites anymore. It's Facebook, it's YouTube, it's tick tock. It's. And you know, we, we have paranormal fear, Haunted house, and then we've got the show. We have cc's, Book central. We've got probably about four or five pages. So we do all those all the time. And it gets daunting at times. So it's. We're trying. We're trying to get better. [01:00:36] Speaker A: No, daunting, like, because it's. [01:00:38] Speaker D: It's overwhelming. Oh, it's overwhelming. The Facebook algorithm. I mean, it's. You have to have that niche. And if you post something that isn't that niche, it doesn't get the reach. And it's like I'm trying to advertise something. Just. Just let people, you know the blood. [01:00:54] Speaker A: Gates for a minute. [01:00:57] Speaker B: That's one of the reasons why, like, my podcast really hasn't grown as much because I'm just, I refuse to play the game. [01:01:02] Speaker D: Game. Yeah. [01:01:03] Speaker B: I'm all like, if people are going to find me, they're going to find me. Like I, I do what I do. I post what I post. It is what it is. So I'm just going to let it happen organically and it's a game. [01:01:13] Speaker C: It's definitely. [01:01:14] Speaker D: No, I, I, I like the challenge. It's like back in the day, the Xbox 360 where you get the little achievement. I check like oh yes. Okay. I'm in the right direction, you know. So I, I, I get a little bit of kick out of it at the same time you get burnt out really quick. And especially with South Texas haunts because, you know, now we're right here October. It's okay. We got to pick it up a little bit. We, we get all our clips and advertise the show and, and get it out there and stuff like that. I mean this coming Saturday will be our first episode premiere of season five at Pur Nice 9:30 on KDF. [01:01:47] Speaker A: Congratulations, man. Awesome. [01:01:50] Speaker D: It's awesome. [01:01:51] Speaker B: It's gonna be, it's gonna be awesome. I, I, I loved it there. It's such a good time. [01:01:56] Speaker D: It's an amazing place. And you know the great thing about now time just kind of just on Chris 6 and of course on KDF, but now they have Chris 6 plus where every Saturday night you can catch an episode of South Texas House. [01:02:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:10] Speaker D: So we're now more, we've grown more so everybody. Because we have fans in the uk. That's awesome. And it's like, I don't know why we have fancy. Okay. But they're cool, right? [01:02:19] Speaker A: That's dope. [01:02:19] Speaker C: Well then it also gives because KDF isn't available on every cable channel or cable provider down here. And so being on Chris 6 plus if you've got streaming, you've got an option to watch. [01:02:29] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:02:30] Speaker A: Wow. That's cool. It's, that's amazing. It's, it's not even, I'm thinking like cable, right? [01:02:34] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:02:34] Speaker A: But shoot. [01:02:35] Speaker C: It's streaming on YouTube. Yeah. Roku. [01:02:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:39] Speaker C: Fire, whatever. Amazon fires. [01:02:41] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:02:42] Speaker A: That's amazing. [01:02:43] Speaker C: I have an Apple tv. [01:02:45] Speaker B: You deserve your success. [01:02:46] Speaker D: Thank you. It's been, it's a, it's a lot of work. Even with the show. A lot of people, you know, the show's 22 minutes and then we do an was an hour and a half or an hour for Halloween and, and we're there so long to get 22 minutes and it's, and there's a lot of like, well, I go home to sleep. [01:03:02] Speaker A: What is the edit? Do y' all edit it yourselves? It off to somebody? [01:03:05] Speaker D: We hand it off to the studio. Gilbert. Shout out to Gilbert Corpus. He's the guy that is it actually this season. There's one episode. I got the chance to edit my own episode this year, and I'm looking forward to it being broadcast. So, yeah, I've dipped my hand a little bit into the editing, but we. [01:03:20] Speaker C: Did go through all the evidence, right? So if we're at a location for 10 hours and we have 10 auto recorders, that's what, 100 hours of things we have to listen to or watch video. And so that's daunting as well. It's worth it. [01:03:32] Speaker B: I do not envy. All in that I hand it off to Scuba. I'm all like, here you go. [01:03:38] Speaker D: But he seems like someone who really gets into that whole headphones on and just run with it. [01:03:44] Speaker C: He laughs at me because I can watch TV and listen to audio at the same time. [01:03:47] Speaker D: It's crazy. No, exactly. [01:03:49] Speaker B: You know what? Women are. [01:03:51] Speaker A: Are. [01:03:52] Speaker B: Are natural multitaskers. Men are not like. [01:03:55] Speaker D: No. [01:03:56] Speaker A: And. [01:03:56] Speaker B: And it blows my mind because my wife is the same way. She can. She can. She's watching a tik tok and she's watching a movie, and she's listening to me talk, and she knows exactly what's going on with the extreme. And I don't know how she does it, but she is a. You all are incredible. [01:04:12] Speaker D: But sometimes I feel like I should carry a little holy water when she walks around, knows exactly what I'm saying from two rooms over, watching tv, doing EVP keys. I'm like, there's something evil going on there. [01:04:21] Speaker B: You look at her and you flip her off. And she said, I saw that. I'm like, oh, you were facing the other way. [01:04:26] Speaker A: No. [01:04:26] Speaker D: Or when I get on. We know all. We know exactly what's going on or how she knows. When I'm on ebay looking at an automotive part and I hear that my phone go off, I'm like, how does she know? How does she know I'm on there? [01:04:39] Speaker C: Never tell. [01:04:40] Speaker B: Wifey sense it is. [01:04:42] Speaker A: I just tell my. You're not listening to me. [01:04:46] Speaker D: You're always listening. [01:04:48] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh. So we'll do some rapid bonus fire questions or whatever you want. What you call it for the almost before we wrap it up. If a ghost could text you right now, what would it say? [01:05:00] Speaker C: What are you doing on a podcast? [01:05:02] Speaker D: Yeah, don't. Shouldn't you be doing something? I Don't know. [01:05:07] Speaker B: It would probably say you totally bitched out at. [01:05:12] Speaker D: Or it's like, I watch you. I'm like, whatever. [01:05:14] Speaker A: I watch you sleep. [01:05:16] Speaker D: Pretty much. [01:05:17] Speaker A: Which horror movie character would you not want to on your team? [01:05:21] Speaker D: Oh, Art the Clown. All. I wouldn't want Art the Clown that. [01:05:25] Speaker C: I don't know who Art the Clown is. [01:05:27] Speaker D: Terrifying terrifier. There's just something creepy about that. Like Jason Voorhees. I love Freddy Krueger. Yes. All that stuff. But, yeah, this. That Art the clown guy is just like. I don't know. It's just the way he looks. [01:05:40] Speaker A: Yeah, he looks. She looks great. [01:05:41] Speaker D: He looks creepy. [01:05:42] Speaker B: I think Freddy would be a good time to. [01:05:44] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, for sure. [01:05:46] Speaker B: I mean, I wouldn't want to party with the dude, but, I mean, all. [01:05:49] Speaker D: I know is the beep button would be going off every five seconds on the show. [01:05:54] Speaker A: If you could investigate any haunted place in the world, where would it be? [01:05:58] Speaker D: Oh, that's easy, Castle. [01:05:59] Speaker C: Overseas somewhere. [01:06:03] Speaker D: I want to go to Chernobyl. Because if you think about it, spirits need energy to manifest themselves to do something. What's the most energy and rich place in the world? Chernobyl. Like 247 all day. [01:06:13] Speaker B: Have you ever used a Tesla coil investigation? [01:06:15] Speaker D: I've seen it used, but I've never used one. But I've seen that it does. There is some positive results to it. [01:06:21] Speaker B: Yeah, I bought a mini one off of Amazon. Like 40 bucks. I. I recommend it, especially if you're not having luck with a room that, you know, has activity. Pump it full of. Of electricity with the Tesla coil and it'll change. [01:06:36] Speaker D: I think season six, we might have to do it. Either that or it's going to be a really good blooper. [01:06:40] Speaker B: You got ideas, I got bad idea. I saw. I saw it on. I saw it on. I'm not going to take credit for that one, but it does change things. [01:06:47] Speaker D: You know what's crazy? We don't watch any of the paranormal TV shows. [01:06:50] Speaker A: Really? [01:06:50] Speaker D: Yeah. We try to keep it original as possible. You. You watch something on TV and it's like, oh, well, you know, then we'll incorporate that in the show. And to me, that's kind of like stealing a little bit from other shows doing stuff. I like the ideas, don't get me wrong, on some things, but I like for us to remain as original as possible. And if we get no evidence, that's what you're gonna see. Yeah, we ain't getting evidence. We're not gonna hype it up and be like, oh, it's this. And it came out and had tea with us. [01:07:16] Speaker A: And that's very interesting because, like, you want to think that you're always going to find something. [01:07:21] Speaker D: I just. [01:07:22] Speaker C: Sometimes you don't. [01:07:23] Speaker D: Yeah. A lot of these shows, it's like Jason with Ghost Hunters. He had talked about a little bit about it, about when they were doing the first two seasons of Ghost Hunters, they would do like 20 episodes in a season. The season wasn't that long, but they wouldn't get anything. But they cherry pick every single one. So you got something. We don't cherry pick episodes. We've gone to places. There. There's one. One place they claim to be extremely haunted in Corpus. But I can't say it's haunted, but I'll say there's paranormal activity. Not every place we come across. And it's not to say there's nothing there. It's just that time we were there, we didn't capture anything. [01:07:57] Speaker A: Do you think that helps with people still wanting coming back to watch the show like you like them knowing that you might not cease catch something or. [01:08:04] Speaker D: You know, I think it has. We've gotten positive reviews on that where it's kind of. We honest, we're. We're. We're straightforward. We're going to. We put the evidence out there, and you might hear something different than what I hear, but I want you to tell me what you hear, and I'll put that out there also. It's. The paranormal should not be a debate, it should be a discussion. And we all should continue to discuss every piece of evidence, scrutinize it, go through it a hundred times, and just put the ideas out there of what we think it is, what we think we've heard or what we think we see. [01:08:34] Speaker A: Wow, man. That's passion right there. I hear the passion coming out. That's so awesome, dude. [01:08:38] Speaker B: That's unionized. [01:08:42] Speaker D: Start the Paranormal Network and then everybody's got a show. [01:08:44] Speaker A: So you mentioned something about having a database, everybody putting it on there. Is there, like, pushback between other investigative groups and stuff like that? [01:08:52] Speaker D: There has. There has been. When we first started out in the paranormal, there was other groups around. They want to be the first, they want to be the best. And then there was a lot of trash talk, or paradrama is what we called it. And when you come across groups like that, you just ignore them. They're going to. There's. There's that old saying, if people's talking stuff about you, you're doing something right. And I've had plenty talked about us in our group and stuff like that. But I don't fire back. There's no reason to fire back. We just do what we do. And if we're doing something right, then. And I think 21, going on 21 years in the fan base that we have and the people that put trust in us knowing that when we go to a place that we're going to be honest and truthful and put the evidence out there and the history and. And, you know, I think. I think it's paid off. [01:09:39] Speaker A: And you know when people see you, like, at HEB or something and they're like, hey, that's Monty. [01:09:44] Speaker C: I was at a suicide symposium last year and I called the ghost lady. [01:09:47] Speaker A: The ghost lady? [01:09:48] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah. [01:09:50] Speaker C: I was there for work and I was at our table talking to some co workers and this lady walks up and she's like, oh, my God, you're the ghost lady, right? And I was like, yes. And so it's. It's one of those us. And I don't like attention by any means. Like, I'm not that person. And so for me, it's kind of like I try to avoid it as much as possible, which I shouldn't. He tells me all the time, don't avoid it. Like, we are who we are. For me, it's kind of just. It's strange in all of reality, like, because, I mean, I was born and raised before, but, like, I know everybody and anybody just about, like, I can't go to HB and not see somebody that I know. But when it's for the paranormal, it switches a little bit. [01:10:26] Speaker B: For me, that's when the imposter syndromes, like, yeah, I'm just doing what I do. [01:10:32] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. [01:10:33] Speaker D: I've had people come up and it's like, you're South Texas haunts, right? Well, I'm part of South Texas haunts. And I'll sit there in HB or Walmart or wherever with someone talks and they'll. Everybody has a story and I'll. Doesn't matter what's going on. I'll sit there and I'll listen to every story. Because to me, that's a little piece of the history of ccsc, of South Texas haunts. We're part of that. We carry those stories on and hopefully get to pass those on on. And it's. It's weird to get recognized from time to time. And it's also. It's strange, but it is cool. I ain't gonna lie about it. It's kind of Cool sometimes, but just, you know, always remain humble and kind, and that's what I tried to do. [01:11:14] Speaker B: I. I've had a couple of situations where people come up and they're like, I know you from somewhere. And I'm like, it's the underwear ads. They're making the rounds again. [01:11:24] Speaker D: You know the one. The one I love. If you go into Walmart and there's those people, and they're either sell cell phones, whatever. I love when they go, who do you have your electric. Electricity provider? I was like, oh, my neighbor. I just got your Internet. My neighbor, he hasn't figured out. [01:11:38] Speaker B: I always tell them, like, I just switched to you guys. [01:11:42] Speaker A: Like, I do. [01:11:44] Speaker B: And I got it from my wife, and she's like, try it, try it. [01:11:46] Speaker D: What? [01:11:46] Speaker B: We were at Walmart, and they're like, who's your electric? Like, man, we just switched. [01:11:50] Speaker D: It's awesome, man. [01:11:51] Speaker B: The rate is this and that. Whatever. Like, oh, I'm so happy, man. And I just walk off. [01:11:59] Speaker A: What's your favorite horror movie? We're almost done. A few more questions, man. [01:12:05] Speaker D: I'm not. [01:12:06] Speaker C: I have a favorite. [01:12:07] Speaker D: I'm not a big horror bus. [01:12:08] Speaker A: I was gonna say, does it have to be horror? Can it be, like a suit? Like, what do you. [01:12:12] Speaker D: Well, everybody's gonna know. [01:12:13] Speaker B: Whatever. [01:12:14] Speaker D: If it's a. It's gonna be Ghostbusters. [01:12:15] Speaker A: No. Okay. [01:12:16] Speaker D: It's gonna be ghost. [01:12:16] Speaker A: I like the latest. The two latest ones, they came out were pretty cool. [01:12:19] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:12:20] Speaker A: And how they connected it to the old one. That was awesome. [01:12:22] Speaker D: And, yes, I cried too. In the theater. She has a video of it. No, the other gr. Hey. It was hard when. When all of a sudden, you saw the hand grip the wand. You feel it right here. [01:12:35] Speaker C: And I was like, what are all these tears? [01:12:36] Speaker D: Yeah. She's just like, are you okay? [01:12:40] Speaker A: And the dude didn't even have to say a word throughout the whole movie. [01:12:43] Speaker D: No. You know, I mean, the last time I cried a movie was me and Marley. That. That. That hit hard. But Ghostbusters Afterlife, that was cool. Oh, my goodness, that'll hurt. [01:12:52] Speaker B: So this. [01:12:52] Speaker C: I wish we could get a good horror movie, right? Like, because all the ones that have been coming out lately aren't really, like, good, in my opinion. [01:12:59] Speaker A: What do you consider a good horror? [01:13:00] Speaker C: Something that's gonna scare me. [01:13:01] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. [01:13:02] Speaker C: It's gonna make me think, you know, to. [01:13:04] Speaker D: To bring a little corpus history into. To a horror fan flick. I'll call it a fan flick. The Smith Building Video that Scared the Living. Yeah. Huh. The one downtown. Not that far from here, right? Yeah, yeah. That video, when I first got a hold of it, it kind of scared me a little bit. I mean I had. Yeah. Have you heard the Smith building? [01:13:25] Speaker A: What is it? [01:13:26] Speaker B: I've never been there. [01:13:27] Speaker D: It's right here off a. Well, it's a building building now where it used to be. I think it's apartments now. And there was. After doing the historical research, there's three graves that's there. It was actually a saddle shop. And this couple painter guys went in there and they captured a whole bunch of stuff happening. Now of course, through the stories, some people say that was faked. Well, I went to school with the guy, his name is Mike. And I went through that video and I found things that I can't. I can't find a reasonable explanation. Like there's EVPs in there. There's certain things falling from the ceiling. I don't know how he pulled it off. I know later on I think he said that there was, you know, some of the stuff was faked in it. But that really. It was one of those moments like wow, that scared me. That, that kind of. Of. Yeah. I put a little bit of fear into me. [01:14:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:14:14] Speaker B: Well, if we're talking about things that you watch that scare you from the past, I mean there's the video from my first wedding. Well, we won't get into that. [01:14:24] Speaker D: No. [01:14:25] Speaker A: Do you ever get nightmares from. From the stuff that you do? [01:14:29] Speaker D: Yes. [01:14:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:14:30] Speaker D: I have dreams about investigating and it's not really nightmares. It's kind of weird. It's. It's like a. A haunted house movie, but inner investigations and things floating. It's the things that never happen and crazy. I sometimes like, I tell her, I was like, I can't wait till October 31 gets here just so I can have a break. Because if I go and do investigations, then I go to sleep. I'm still doing investigations, so. Yeah. [01:14:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:14:58] Speaker C: I haven't. No. [01:15:00] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm a truck driver and like sometimes I. If I were like. If it's a. Like a long week and I do a lot of loads, I'll sleep and literally like I wake up like. [01:15:11] Speaker D: Like a car me. [01:15:13] Speaker B: It's. [01:15:14] Speaker A: I'll just go like this. [01:15:15] Speaker C: It's so crazy is your brain's still going. [01:15:17] Speaker A: Yeah. Cuz the brain is like constantly on it. You, you're always thinking about it. Is there anything else you want to share before we. Before we close out? [01:15:23] Speaker C: Give anything? [01:15:24] Speaker D: No. Thank you guys so much. [01:15:26] Speaker C: Yeah, it's fun. [01:15:27] Speaker D: Ever. When I. We first started following the page, I I told her, I said, man, sooner or later I want to go on there. I want to talk. So this is an honor to really be on here. [01:15:33] Speaker A: Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I. Funny, I didn't find you through the haunts. I found it through your personal page on Tick Tock. [01:15:39] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:15:39] Speaker A: Which by the way, is pretty cool content, man. [01:15:41] Speaker D: Thank you. [01:15:41] Speaker A: Yeah, the car stuff. Yeah, definitely. [01:15:43] Speaker D: Yeah. I need to do more. I'm a little behind on projects, but I'm gonna get to doing it. [01:15:47] Speaker A: Yeah, it's all good. And so South Texas haunts, everywhere. Is that where we find you guys? [01:15:51] Speaker D: Yeah, we're on every social media platform. Tick Tock, Facebook, Instagram, Instagram, you name it, we're there. [01:15:57] Speaker A: Nice. [01:15:58] Speaker D: All the episodes are on our YouTube channel, so if you want to binge watch it. And then of course, every Saturday night at 10:30 on Chris 6 + +. And starting this Saturday night on KDF, I think it's 9:30 pursuit. Oh, go ahead, sorry. [01:16:12] Speaker C: Pursuit of Laia. And then repeats on Sunday at 11:34 on Chris 6. [01:16:15] Speaker D: Yep. [01:16:16] Speaker A: Nice. [01:16:16] Speaker B: Very specific number. [01:16:18] Speaker D: We don't pick that. [01:16:19] Speaker A: You want to mention something before we take off? [01:16:21] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:16:22] Speaker B: Check out Recycled Corn Binge. All my stuff. I got really good stuff on there. Well, the past few episodes. [01:16:28] Speaker A: No, they are really good. I'm telling you, man, I'm like waiting for it to. Because I Do you do, do you post like, like, like every Wednesday, every Monday or. [01:16:36] Speaker B: I try to, I try to do it, I try to schedule it to where the, the episodes drop on Fridays or should I like Friday at midnight or, you know, Thursday midnight, whatever, so into Friday. But I, I, I need to record this week. I'm going to get some episodes lined up so they're, they're taken care of for, for October, but they're all going to be Halloween themed. But still with the unshocked, the, the series I'm doing is Unshock Yourself. Yeah, he said it's a self help series and it's all going to be a Halloween thing, but still within the self help, you know, genre theme, whatever you want to call it. It's just advice that. I've heard that again. You know, it's, it's, it's recycled and I've heard it before, so I'm gonna put it together and I'm gonna put it out there. And I'm sure everyone's heard the same advice before, but sometimes you just need to hear it from somebody else to be like, oh, you know what? That makes sense. Let's let's get started. [01:17:35] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:17:35] Speaker B: So that's what. That's my idea. [01:17:38] Speaker A: Yeah. I was asking when you drop it because I'm always waiting for the next one. The sound quality is great. How you script it. It's just, it sounds awesome and sometimes you. I can barely hear the music in the back. But I mean, I. But it sounds good, bro. Like, it's really good. [01:17:54] Speaker B: I, well, I just don't want the music to overpower what I'm trying saying. [01:17:58] Speaker A: Yeah, it works. It's working. [01:18:00] Speaker B: Like, I appreciate, man, that that means a lot, especially coming from you. [01:18:03] Speaker A: Yeah, definitely. The Recycled Corn Podcast. I listen to you on Spotify. That's how I listen to podcasts. But and you guys podcast coming out soon. So this wraps up today's episode for the Corpus Christi Originals Podcast. Thanks to Monty Prescott, Shauna Davis of the South Texas Haunts for sharing their stories and giving us a glimpse into what they do the paranormal side of South Texas. And special thanks to my co host Ben De Leon from the Recycled Corn Podcast for bringing a fresh perspective and great questions and insights and just bringing his, bringing his, his whole aura in here is awesome, man. I love it. I love it. If you want to follow Monty and Shawna's work, check out South Texas Haunts anywhere on the socials, the social media for the latest investigations. YouTube you can binge watch on there. Thanks for listening. Subscribe, share, reshare. We'll see you on the next show. Stay tuned. See you guys later.