EP119 – Caitlin Shook | The Annex & The Bad Blonde Podcast

[00:00:00] Speaker A: You know what I mean? [00:00:01] Speaker B: Well, we're gonna find out. [00:00:03] Speaker A: Oh, shoot. What's going on, you guys? Corpus Christurism is back at it again. We got Caitlin Shook here, Big C. Hola. Here at the Annex. Her spot down here downtown. What's the address here? [00:00:12] Speaker B: Yeah. 312 South Chaparral. So it's basically a street that you would never go down unless you were deliberately coming to the bar. [00:00:20] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, for sure. I was thinking of it. What's the YMCA over there? [00:00:23] Speaker B: Yeah, YMCA behind us is the you and I. [00:00:26] Speaker A: Okay. [00:00:27] Speaker B: But aside from that, it's like a kind of an aptitude test just to, like, you're like, there's three one ways to get here. And then when we first opened, we didn't even have a sign up, so it was basically an. An accidental speakeasy. [00:00:40] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:00:41] Speaker B: You know what I mean? Because it's, like, already dark out there. People be like, oh, are we in the annex? Yes, you have made it to the annex by miracle. [00:00:50] Speaker A: That's what's up, man. Yeah. I saw you come in here. I met you at the artisan doing stand up Mike. [00:00:55] Speaker B: Yeah. And then you've come in here more than a few times and done our comedy collective. [00:01:00] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. It's cool, it's cool. It's cool what you got going on here. [00:01:04] Speaker B: Yeah, we try. So how have you liked jumping, putting your toes into the comedy community? [00:01:11] Speaker A: I like it. I like it. Finding my groove. Like, we're talking about productivity before coming on, and I think I'm kind of looking into, like, joke structure and writing, you know, getting into that stuff, you [00:01:22] Speaker B: know, super fascinating because, like, you know, I. I like to do it every once in a while. And that had. I'm always. I've been a huge comedy fan, but it never crossed my mind to participate until I heard, like, two podcasts back to back. Wow. Talking about what a rush it was. And I was all, oh, I could use a rush. I need a rush that's not drug related. And so I. I gave it a shot because, I mean, I'm. I've known Tina for ages, and. And it's great. It's fun, but it is actually an art form because it's very different just being funny in general in a conversation extemporaneously. But to actually, like, lead somebody on a storyline or a joke path, really freaking difficult. [00:02:06] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, for sure. [00:02:07] Speaker B: So it's pretty fun. [00:02:08] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. I'm enjoying it. I'm enjoying it. So are you. So you just. It's Kind of like a hobby at this point for you? [00:02:13] Speaker B: Oh, for sure. [00:02:14] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, for sure. [00:02:15] Speaker B: I'm just trying to get that rush. [00:02:16] Speaker A: You got all kinds of stuff going on, man. [00:02:18] Speaker B: I know. [00:02:19] Speaker A: I think I actually first found you on the. Your podcast because I was searching. [00:02:23] Speaker B: Really? [00:02:23] Speaker A: Yeah. I was searching for Corpus Christi podcast. [00:02:25] Speaker B: You're kidding me. [00:02:26] Speaker A: No, I'm serious. [00:02:27] Speaker B: You're the only person that has found me via podcast. [00:02:30] Speaker A: I'm serious. That's how. That's how I found you. The bad blonde. [00:02:33] Speaker B: Right. [00:02:33] Speaker A: That's your podcast. And I was like, okay. And then I saw. I met you at the artisan and I mentioned it again there. [00:02:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:40] Speaker A: Your podcast. And then you're talking about having a rush and stuff like that. Yeah. So that was pretty cool. So you got that and you have this. [00:02:46] Speaker B: Yeah, well, so. It's so funny. Yeah. The. The annex, this bar has been a dream of mine since I was, like, 18, which is an odd dream to have before you're even 21. But how this all started was my first job ever was an Italian restaurant a block down the street. I was the bus girl. 16 years old. Wow. It's the best Italian food ever. I literally. [00:03:09] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:03:10] Speaker B: Imagine being able to gain £10 at 16. I g. Yeah. Again, I was like, just like, their family dinners and their free bread. I just. La, la, la. And so that was just down the street. And then my sister and I worked at Ty Cottage, which Shout out. Ty Cottage. Worked there, you know, going through college, blah, blah. Or going through Del Mar. And then when I went up to Austin, still bartending, waiting tables. And it's funny. So this has always been a dream for me to have my own spot. And you'd wonder, why didn't anybody tell me to dream bigger? Oh, I'm kidding. I'm like, why didn't anybody tell me to be, like, a neuroscientist or something? [00:03:51] Speaker A: It makes me think about, like, is it because you were in that. In that atmosphere? [00:03:54] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. No, I'm. And I'm kidding. Because I love this. [00:03:57] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:03:58] Speaker B: I love having a space, and I. That is very welcoming. Like, I like to make people feel welcome and comfortable every time they come in these doors. [00:04:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:08] Speaker B: Over there. And yeah, I, I, it is a dream come true for over many, many years. [00:04:16] Speaker A: Yeah. Just come. It's nice. It's very nice in here. [00:04:18] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:04:18] Speaker A: I like. [00:04:19] Speaker B: We try it. [00:04:19] Speaker A: The color, like, it's. It's a good vibe in here. [00:04:21] Speaker B: It's courtyard green. If anybody's listening and they want to Know this because it's not easy picking a green. And if you look, we have a lot of different areas where lighting is coming in, because we first. When we did so essentially, my sister, my mom, and I designed it. We didn't hire anybody out. I mean, we hired. We were kind of our own general contractors, which is insane, frankly. But I know at one point, my sister and I were just tired of arguing about the color for the green. I wanted it darker, she wanted it lighter. And so we kind of like, at 1, we just got. We exhausted ourselves, and I'm all like, all right, you want that? You have it. And then in her mind, she's like, you want it, you have it. Wow. And so neither of us decided on a green. We liked it. And this whole place got painted a green. I walked in here, and I was like, absolutely fucking wrong. I called her. I was all, we cannot do this. I was like, it looks like a putt putt facility. I was like, we're heading back to Sherwin Williams. This is unbelievable. It can't be done. And then we decided on this. It's courtyard green. And I want to tell everybody that because it is such a pain to pick a good green, that if you're looking for a good green, we have already found it. You know what I mean? Like, it's. It's a total hassle. But, yeah, we just celebrated three years here at the annex. And you've been here a couple of times, even though you don't drink, which I think is impressive. [00:05:48] Speaker A: Yeah, it's always associated. And I'm glad you'll have mineral water. [00:05:51] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:05:51] Speaker A: And Red Bull. [00:05:52] Speaker B: You know, there's a topo chico shortage going on. [00:05:54] Speaker A: No way. [00:05:55] Speaker B: That's why, guys, Minaragua, not. [00:06:00] Speaker A: What's the. The bartender for? [00:06:01] Speaker B: Britney. Sweet Britney. [00:06:02] Speaker A: Britney Tipper. When you guys get here, she. She's like, if you dress it with tahin. I was like, no, I never tried it like that. [00:06:07] Speaker B: Oh, it's good. [00:06:08] Speaker A: So she hooked it up. [00:06:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:10] Speaker A: Yeah. What do you. And you're drinking. You got the special going there. [00:06:12] Speaker B: Ooh. This is a Tassu cold brew, which is super delicious. It's got a little caffeine in there. So the thing is. And to go back to that Italian restaurant that I bust tables at, they would have the most amazing tiramisu. And I was in charge of making desserts, which. Not that hard. You just. Basically, it's not. I scooped out tiramisu that was already made onto a plate. And tiramisu doesn't have to look nice. It's just. [00:06:39] Speaker A: I'm confused. You thought you got me a tiramisu. What is that? [00:06:43] Speaker B: Yeah, so I was like, man, I want something that tastes like tiramisu but also has caffeine because that's what the chicks want. You know what I mean? [00:06:50] Speaker A: It's got alcohol too, or that's just caffeine. [00:06:52] Speaker B: Oh, it totally is. [00:06:53] Speaker A: Oh, totally. What kind of question is that? [00:06:55] Speaker B: It's got plenty of alcohol. Yeah. And. But it's got, you know, the little caffeine kick. This has been a big hit with the ladies. [00:07:01] Speaker A: Oh, dope. [00:07:02] Speaker B: Yeah, it's been a. Yeah, yeah. [00:07:06] Speaker A: Speaking of ladies. So you. You're a woman. [00:07:07] Speaker B: Speaking of ladies, I am a woman. [00:07:11] Speaker A: Shout out. I. I've got. I think I'm going to put this into a women's edition, cuz I already had one episode so far, you know, Cuz there, man, I mean, you're doing it. [00:07:22] Speaker B: Well, it's not just me, so it's my sister and I, then we make a. [00:07:25] Speaker A: That's a lady, too. So two ladies? [00:07:27] Speaker B: Yes, yes. Well, I always like to shout her out. She got two little ones, so she's not always at the bar for sure, as much as I am. [00:07:34] Speaker A: So. Y' all sister. Both of y'. All. Both of you guys. Well, I heard you're related to some of the other cooks in town or whatever. [00:07:41] Speaker B: Cooks? [00:07:41] Speaker A: Like that's your last name, isn't it? [00:07:43] Speaker B: I'm mostly. I mean, I'm mostly related to mechanics. That's what I'm talking about. My dad's a mechanic. My brother's a mechanic. [00:07:52] Speaker A: What's up? [00:07:53] Speaker B: Like, I don't think we got a cook yet. [00:07:56] Speaker A: So do you still work on cars or. When's the last time you worked on a car? [00:08:00] Speaker B: I got project cars. It's been a little while, to be honest. So I know enough about mechanicry that Mechanically about mechanics that I know enough to know. I don't know that much. [00:08:11] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:08:11] Speaker B: Well, I mean, think about it like, my brothers and my dad are Matt. Like, they have seen everything under the sun, from antique to modern. You freaking name. Takes a tremendous amount of time and knowledge to be good at working on those cars. [00:08:27] Speaker A: Oh, shoot. [00:08:28] Speaker B: So, I mean, I can do basic stuff, but at no point would I say I'm a good mechanic. [00:08:32] Speaker A: You're talking about, like, specialty, like. [00:08:34] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Specialty cars. Oh, for sure. Like, we're one of the few places you can take a vintage Ferrari in South. South of San Antonio. [00:08:42] Speaker A: Oh, man. [00:08:42] Speaker B: Yeah, that's Pretty dope. [00:08:43] Speaker A: I love that. That's awesome. So, and. And you're on your podcast, the Bad Blonde. Do you talk? Like, how do you. Is that just, like, all off the brain? It is. [00:08:52] Speaker B: Well, so the thing is, is, like, I. If you had told me 10, not like, 15 years ago that I was gonna have a live radio show about automotive history and that I was gonna actually have an Instagram in. In social media, you know, yeah. Yeah. I would be like, yeah, right. Because I personally do not like putting myself out there for some, like, old white dude in Idaho to be like, you're pronouncing that wrong. You know, like, so this passion for automotive history has been something that since I was a kid. Essentially, when I was 14, my dad got me a Porsche 912E to restore. Not like, I'm not, like, people might be all like, spoiled girl. I'm like, that is considered the poor man's poor Porsche. So it has the body of a 911, but the engine of a 914. [00:09:45] Speaker A: Wow. [00:09:45] Speaker B: And at the time, I literally think the guy, like, probably paid us to get it out of his junkyard. [00:09:51] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. [00:09:51] Speaker B: Because nobody wanted it. Nobody cared about it. But I will say now, it is actually a very important Porsche because it was only made in 1976. It's the E that's in there. The 912E. They did it one year, 1976. And. And the E stands for einspritzen, which means fuel injection. So now, because it's scarce, people are like, ooh, 9:12e. But when I was 14, which was many moons ago, it was worth absolutely nothing. And mostly my dad just got it so that he was like, this chick is getting into trouble all the time. [00:10:26] Speaker A: Wow. [00:10:27] Speaker B: Let's. Let's get her busy. And that's kind of how all that just came around. That's still my baby. That car is still my precious baby. It's a project car, and I did a lot of blood, sweat, tears. Honestly, I think that car is a. Was very formative of my personality because I basically spent most of my teenage years around old car dudes and Vietnam vets. [00:10:53] Speaker A: Wow. [00:10:53] Speaker B: Yeah. And actually, this very building is where so this used to be an auto body shop. So when I was working on my 912e, it was in this building, and I was working with this fantastic man. He was like the. He looked like a Hispanic Einstein. His hair, his everything. But he talked like a prophet. Like, everything that came out of his mouth was some kind of, like, words of wisdom. It was amazing and I just had the best time. But I will tell you what though it is auto body work is mentally exhausting. You're just, you, you're sanding, but you can't sand too hard. It's your instinct to push, but you gotta, like, sand that orange peel very softly. Yeah, it's super interesting. [00:11:43] Speaker A: So. And you're talking about the external of the car, not so much the internal of the car. [00:11:47] Speaker B: Oh, I had already done the. Completely overhauled the engine. And that was fun. Honestly, all of it was fun. And it made me a lot of who I am today. [00:11:57] Speaker A: That's so interesting. [00:11:58] Speaker B: So, yeah, the how that all. How this whole conversation all started was cars has been in the blood for a long time. And I used to go to car. I mean, I still do, but back. I used to travel a lot for work. And so I would go to a different car museum. Like any city, any city, any state I was going to. And I'm a. I love to read a placard, so I will read the heck out of a placard. Fantastic. You learn so much. And I had. Over the years, I had amassed so much, I guess, memory and knowledge of the history of these automobiles. That one I just. In 2019, I was like, I'm gonna go ahead. I don't care about how nasty people will be on the Internet. To a girl that is talking about automotive history. And I just started an Instagram. I started doing YouTubes about automotive history. Cause it's genuinely a fascinating topic. [00:12:51] Speaker A: Wow. [00:12:52] Speaker B: And out of nowhere, the station manager at 1440 Keys reached out and he was like, hey, I want to talk to you about maybe doing a radio show. [00:13:02] Speaker A: Wow, that's cool. [00:13:04] Speaker B: Well, I also, I curse like a sailor. [00:13:09] Speaker A: Can we drink on the show? Can we drink on the show? [00:13:12] Speaker B: We've definitely had beers on the radio show before. And so I have a meeting with him and I go in there totally like, yeah, right. You know what I mean? Like, this isn't gonna happen. [00:13:22] Speaker A: Believe it. [00:13:23] Speaker B: No, I mean, it wasn't about. Couldn't believe it. I was just like, I shouldn't be on the radio. [00:13:29] Speaker A: Okay. [00:13:29] Speaker B: You know what I mean? I was like, I couldn't trust myself not to say the F word. You know what I mean? So we go in there and he's talking about it and all this stuff, and I'm like, dude, this sounds cool. Mostly because, like, I grew up watching, like, Frasier and what is it new? There was another radio show. And then also I loved the movie Airhead. So radio to Me has always been fascinating. Remember that movie, Dude? Oh, yeah. So good. [00:13:56] Speaker A: Was it the Lone Stallions or What's. What's the name of their band? Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:14:00] Speaker B: We're gonna have to. [00:14:01] Speaker A: Stallions can't be lone. It's just. [00:14:07] Speaker B: It's. You know what I mean? [00:14:07] Speaker A: That's a good show. [00:14:08] Speaker B: It's fat. Yeah. So I just thought radio. Radio was kind of fascinating, but I told the guy, I'm like. At the end of his spiel, I was like, look, I cuss like a sailor and I don't have a voice for radio. And he's all, you can figure you can fix the cussing part, which I haven't. I've only cussed, like, twice on the show live in six years, but. And then he's all like, you might not have a voice for radio, but you got a personality for. [00:14:35] Speaker A: Wow. Amazing. [00:14:38] Speaker B: He's right, though, because I. I do not have a voice for radio. One of my. I have a really good YouTube comment. It's one of my history videos because I'll make. I used to make. I've been kind of busy with the bar, so I've done a little. I've done less long. Long format videos about history. [00:14:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:14:58] Speaker B: Yeah. And just stick with short. Lately, I'd like to get back. But I made a history video and there was this guy that commented, and he said, that girl sounds like a frozen cat getting run through a band song. [00:15:12] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. [00:15:15] Speaker B: I wasn't even mad. I was like, that is the most, like, imaginative comment. Can you like. I was like, dude, that's. [00:15:23] Speaker A: I don't have this much time to make that kind of. [00:15:26] Speaker B: I was all, that's a golden comment. I'm not even mad about that. [00:15:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Sometimes I don't know if they're bots or actually people actually have those opinions. [00:15:33] Speaker B: Oh, that was 100. A wonderful human being with a good imagination. [00:15:37] Speaker A: How do you. So obviously you get a lot of that. How do you. How do you handle that as a. As an owner, entrepreneur and all that stuff? [00:15:43] Speaker B: Oh, I've gotten way, way better at it. [00:15:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:45] Speaker B: It's taken some deprogramming. [00:15:46] Speaker A: Did you used to, like, comment back, like, well, this, this and this about you or. [00:15:50] Speaker B: Well, you know what I mean? I. I still comment back if I find it personally funny. Like, I'm not gonna bloody my hands for nothing. Like, if a guy is just. You know. You can also tell when somebody's actually looking. I mean, most of them are looking for attention in reality. [00:16:05] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:16:06] Speaker B: Well, think about it. If anybody says something negative about you, I'm like, you know why you're not doing anything? You know what I mean? Like, if somebody's saying something negative about you, it's usually because they don't have anything important going on in their lives. But if I have a comment that specifically cracks me up. Yeah, almost. Oh, what? You know what I mean? Like, oh, they're gonna track me down. [00:16:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:31] Speaker B: Come at me. [00:16:31] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:16:33] Speaker B: But I will say there are a lot of comments that I don't reply to. And it's taken a lot of deprogramming for me personally because, you know, I've never. I grew up the youngest of four kids. I was like homeschooled, went to public school. And so like, I have really trained myself. Like, I'm like, and you, you let somebody bully you once, they're gonna bully you for the rest of your life. And I'm all like, not today. So it took a lot of deprogramming to not immediately be like, let's fight. So yeah, it's pretty fascinating. [00:17:08] Speaker A: Like, you're. So your dad was involved in that part of parenting or your mom or like, how did you. [00:17:12] Speaker B: Oh, no, my dad. [00:17:13] Speaker A: On your own or. [00:17:14] Speaker B: My dad was being a mechanic behind. He is one of the hardest workers I've literally ever met. [00:17:21] Speaker A: So cool. [00:17:22] Speaker B: Like, yeah, he just got. He was a. Just recently was in the hospital for like over a week. A lot of it. And then the very. He got back on a Thursday and he was working on a Friday. [00:17:33] Speaker A: Wow. [00:17:34] Speaker B: And I'm like, dude, take it easy. You earned it. You've been working so long. Like. Yeah, no. One of the hardest workers I've met. So my mom was my. Primarily homeschooling us. [00:17:44] Speaker A: Wow. [00:17:44] Speaker B: Which is also why I still don't know fractions. [00:17:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Shout out to mom. Happy Mother's Day. [00:17:49] Speaker B: Yeah, it is Mother's Day. [00:17:50] Speaker A: Dang. [00:17:51] Speaker B: Yeah. We were doing a little brunch action before you got. [00:17:53] Speaker A: You got three other siblings too, so that maybe that helps out with that growing process. I always think about that. I always come on that stuff, especially for people that are like us entrepreneurs, business owners and always creative minded. Like, there's always going to be people that are going to say something, especially if we're blazing the trail. You know what I mean? [00:18:10] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. But really, when you really think about it, the reality is Aunt Nobody that is already too busy focusing on their dreams and goals have time to say something negative. You know what I mean? [00:18:24] Speaker A: Yeah. And you. And it's like cuz I cuz you could get stuck in that and totally forget about what you're doing and you're wasting your time. [00:18:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:32] Speaker A: With it? Is that what you're saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. [00:18:35] Speaker B: No, that's exact. That would be exhausting. That's for sure. [00:18:38] Speaker A: Exhausting. For sure, man. So you got the annex going on. How do you like it so far? How long have you been open? [00:18:42] Speaker B: Three. We just celebrated three years. [00:18:44] Speaker A: Yes. [00:18:44] Speaker B: Like a couple of weeks ago. We had the best time. We had a mini farm, which. I do that for me. [00:18:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. Okay. [00:18:51] Speaker B: You know, well, I mean, I do it for everybody, but like when we've celebrated our first year anniversary. [00:18:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:57] Speaker B: I'm all like, patting myself on the back. I'm all like, way to go, you bitch. You know what I mean? Like, I'm all, what do you deserve? And I was like, I want a petting zoo. And [00:19:13] Speaker A: that's so funny. [00:19:14] Speaker B: It was amazing. So we had petting and so we've always had the petting zoo ever since that first year. Yeah. Imagine petting a little baby bunny rabbit. It's like glorious. And baby goats and it is. Oh, there was this like succulent little fat white pig that was so precious. And there's chickens, ducks, you name it. Well, like, I mean, you've probably seen this. We like to have experiences at this bar. [00:19:38] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:19:39] Speaker B: I like, I also, I had a. In a different life, I had a brand experience, experiential marketing job. And so, like, not only do is it bring me joy, but it also brings our customers joy. And I kind of love just sharing an experience. And that's essentially half. That's why we do what we do all the time here. [00:20:02] Speaker A: It's interesting you say that because it makes me think about, do you have a certain type of customer that you like, try to market to? You know what I mean? Do you get into that type of stuff? [00:20:10] Speaker B: Man. You know, I kind of pride ourselves in having every demographic come in this bar and feel welcome, like, legitimately. Like, we have college students and we have 90 year olds. Like. And so one of my favorite things about our events we do here, like, let's say the plant exchange or the book exchange. [00:20:30] Speaker A: Cool. [00:20:31] Speaker B: So, like, you'll come in here, they're kind of. They're similar in structure. Like, you'll bring a book, you'll bring a plant, you'll say your name, you'll say, yeah, well, so with the book, so cool. Well, yeah, with the book exchange, you'll be like, my name's Caitlin and I brought this. Cause I like historical fiction, which I do. Yeah. And everybody will go around in a circle and at the end of the event, I'll be like, 1, 2, 3. And everybody's like, they're diving for their books. It is the funnest thing. But, but really what. And I'm going to. I already got goosebumps just talking about it. What really, for me makes those events so special is that you have every demographic. [00:21:11] Speaker A: Wow. [00:21:12] Speaker B: And they have a shared interest. So they are able to talk to the. And they do. They talk to each other like. And that's not something this day and age that happens much anymore, you know, in reality. So you have a 90 year old Betty that comes in talking to a college student. They have two different genres of books that they don't even, you know, collide together, but they still have a common interest and they get a chat with each other. So there has been many friendships made through these events that honestly, it makes me so happy. [00:21:49] Speaker A: That's cool. [00:21:50] Speaker B: Yeah, it brings me a tremendous amount of joy. [00:21:51] Speaker A: It makes me think about community. Like the importance of having. [00:21:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:55] Speaker A: Community and just being for you. Creating a space to be able to see that. That's, that's nice. [00:22:00] Speaker B: It feels real special. [00:22:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:02] Speaker B: Like, it feels, it's, it's because you [00:22:04] Speaker A: grew up, you think it's because you grew up in the community. Would you say, like with your sisters and your, you know what I'm saying? Like how, what, what made you, what draws you to that? It's just, just. [00:22:14] Speaker B: I'm gonna be honest, like, because my [00:22:16] Speaker A: question is yes to people. Why are you the way you are? [00:22:19] Speaker B: Yeah. I have always tremendously liked people, to be honest. And I've always liked, you know, and I got lucky. I've, you know, like my childhood was not a normal childhood between homeschooling and being around all old car dudes. And then I did a lot of volunteering my granny around like every age group. I honestly, I, I, I, I was around a lot of different age groups and talking to a lot of different age groups when I was a kid. And I just genuine, what sparks me is having a genuine interaction with people. And it brings me so much joy that I like to. And I'm always pushing what I like onto people. I'm all like, I want you to enjoy this too. I don't know. I like to spread the joy. [00:23:08] Speaker A: Frankly, that's pretty cool. [00:23:09] Speaker B: So, yeah, it's a combination of things that, you know, you like what you like. [00:23:13] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. You just turn into somebody that you Turn into somebody that you want to be, and you're. [00:23:18] Speaker B: You would hope so. [00:23:19] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? Like, you're constantly working on yourself, and you find new stuff out about yourself. Like, dang, I didn't know I was like that. You know, it's like you stumble upon it, I guess, sometimes, too. Yeah, that's pretty interesting. Yeah, man. So you got this, the annex, and then you have your podcast, man. What is that? Like so you. [00:23:36] Speaker B: So the podcast is so it. I'm lucky because, like, it's a live radio show on 1440 Keys Saturday at 10am Which I'll tell you, waking up at 10am on a Saturday, like, you know, especially sometimes, like, I'm here late signing checks for a band or something. You name it. Or I'm just behaving poorly. I'm taking Jager bombs, you know, like, who knows what's happening? So it's always funny. But so what's nice is, is 1,440 keys will send me that, and then I upload it into the podcast sphere. [00:24:07] Speaker A: Okay, so when did you decide to turn it into. You didn't have to turn it into a podcast, did you? [00:24:12] Speaker B: No, I didn't, because it's radio. Right. I just thought, you know, so I have a pretty fair. I have. I have a really genuine cool following of car people on social media like Facebook and Instagram. And they'd always be like, well, we can't see it. We can't listen to it live. And so that's. I kind of started doing that for them and. [00:24:34] Speaker A: Nice. [00:24:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:35] Speaker A: Yeah, that's a good. [00:24:36] Speaker B: But it's like, it's so way nerdy, but it's okay. So it might be automotively nerdy, but I feel like anybody can listen to it because it's not all just, like, specs. Like, I'm not all like, you know, you know, this is a V8, blah, blah, blah. What. What is the best part about automotive history is that it is a telenovela that involves cars. Yeah. [00:24:58] Speaker A: That's crazy. [00:24:59] Speaker B: Yeah. For real. So, like, they're just. A few months ago, one of the topics we covered were the Whittington brothers who showed up out of nowhere onto the racing scene with a ton of money. They were also talented. All right, so it's way different if you just show up with a butt ton of money and you race, whatever. But these guys actually had skill. You know what I mean? And so everyone, they just show up on the scene and nobody questioned. And this was like late 70s, and so nobody questions it they're just like, oh, maybe they just came from money. Nah, they were smuggling weed. Like no tomorrow huge weed smugglers just to just so they could pay for their racing habit. And then the best part for me at least is they made a lot enough money that they bought in Atlanta. There's this like, I think it's called Road Atlanta. It's this giant racetrack. But what's really important about that racetrack is that it has a one of the longest straits for racetracks in America, which is really good for night drop offs. So cocaine, weed, you name it. These guys made like. I think sometimes my memory's off, but I feel like it was $73 million smuggling. They paid to get into the Le Mans and they did good at the Le Mans, which is a testament to them being actually great race car drivers. They. But I think what they've. Obviously they got caught if I'm telling their story. And I think the oldest brother maybe served 14 years. [00:26:39] Speaker A: Wow. [00:26:40] Speaker B: Which man. Maybe I would serve 14 years and get $73 million. [00:26:45] Speaker A: Man, that's so interesting. I, you know, I only heard a few episodes and I, God, I hope [00:26:50] Speaker B: they were good ones. [00:26:51] Speaker A: Well, to be honest, I only heard like, like 15 minutes. I didn't listen all the way through. But now that you. [00:26:56] Speaker B: They weren't good if you didn't stay listening. [00:26:58] Speaker A: Well, now that you say that, because I thought it was just like you're saying the specs. [00:27:02] Speaker B: No. Yeah, yeah. But do you think human interest. [00:27:04] Speaker A: Do you think you ever run out of stuff to talk about, like history, like, like stories? [00:27:10] Speaker B: That's. I'm not gonna lie, that's crossed my mind a few times. But no, because since the dawn of the automobile, like let's go even, let's go all the way back to the race of creating the horseless carriage, the automobile. Super fascinating. And it's so, you know, like times might change, but we're all still the same in a lot of different ways. So at the beginning of the race to produce the horseless carriage, AKA the automobile, back then it was a, a fight of the power source. So you. It was either battery or I should say electric, steam or combustion. And you know, it's so fascinating because people say that electric is the future where they don't realize it was also a big part of the past. And why electric failed back then is a lot of why electric is not, let's say, burgeoning as quickly right now. Imagine in the 18, like late 18, let's say like 1890s, you're gonna buy. Like, people don't buy electric cars right now a lot of times, because they're, you know, if they want, there's not a ton of places to charge them. Right, right. Imagine if it was 1890. [00:28:20] Speaker A: Oh, shoot. [00:28:21] Speaker B: Yeah. So it's so interesting. I mean, there's a place. Honestly, there's a place for each one of those power sources, except for steam. Steam can blow your ass up. And that's why nobody really liked steam back then. But, you know, like, you can have a. You know, if you mainly travel in the city, an electric car sure makes sense. [00:28:40] Speaker A: What do you think about the steam state of the. Of the automobiles right now? Are you allowed to talk about that? [00:28:47] Speaker B: Yeah, no, that's totally cool, I think. Well, so. Okay, I'm gonna. Let's go back in time. [00:28:53] Speaker A: Okay. [00:28:55] Speaker B: There was a time period where cars were created, and there's still some, but not a lot. [00:28:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:00] Speaker B: Cars were created for, you know, for performance and fun. Thrill of design. [00:29:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:09] Speaker B: And in the 1950s, late 1950s, a lot of automobile manufacturers were taken over by what you would call bean counter. All right, so somebody who's looking at the bottom line. All right. How much money do we make on these cars? [00:29:23] Speaker A: Oh, shoot. [00:29:24] Speaker B: And so you'll notice a lot of, like, a lot of these cars look the same. All right. And now, that being said, we've had a lot of, like, safety improvements, hands down, and that's wonderful for us. [00:29:37] Speaker A: Yes. [00:29:37] Speaker B: Because there was Also, before the 1950s, they didn't care about our safety that much. There's actually a really fascinating story about automobile safety. So, like, so crazy. Yeah. Think about that. [00:29:51] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm thinking about, like, what year or what time did, like, we started buying in mass, because it seems like automobiles, when you're creating the automobiles, it's only certain select few of people maybe had. Maybe they have money for the material. Whatever. Whatever. And then we got to the point where everybody has a car. [00:30:08] Speaker B: Yeah. You know what I mean? Oh, it's so, so. It's so funny. Like, when the car. [00:30:13] Speaker A: The. [00:30:13] Speaker B: When the horse. They called it a horseless carriage because, you know, think about it. Everybody had carriages. [00:30:18] Speaker A: Yeah. Or ride the horses or whatever. [00:30:20] Speaker B: They were terrified of them. [00:30:21] Speaker A: Oh. [00:30:22] Speaker B: Like, there were no earlier. Like, only the rich people were early adopters of automobiles. [00:30:26] Speaker A: Okay. Yes. [00:30:27] Speaker B: Like, the average person was like, what is that thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were. They were completely befuddled by these cars coming through. And honestly, that. That was such a fascinating time period in automotive history because you had to be a true maverick and a genius. To be able to put. Think about it. Put all of the components together with an engine to have a car. And what was really cool was it was any man's game at that time. Wow. You know what I mean? So, like, you could. And this is for a lot of automobile brands that you're familiar with. They could have been manufacturing sewing machines, and then all of a sudden this new invention's out and they're like, well, we're going to make an automobile, too. Or they could have been. So a lot of, like, a lot of. They went from making carriages to making automobiles. And then a lot of guys just in their, their, Their shacks, they were like wooden farmhouses, were like, well, let's make an automobile. So it's. Yeah, it's super fascinating. [00:31:34] Speaker A: Do you think so? I. I know there's a rumor. I don't know if it's a. The car that runs. That doesn't run on gas or runs on water or something like that. Do you believe in that type of stuff, or is it just people just trying to makeup stuff or whatever? [00:31:47] Speaker B: Well, I mean, you know, you. There are cars that run on, like, fry oil and stuff like that. You know what I mean? [00:31:54] Speaker A: Yeah. And then there's a car that runs on butter. [00:31:56] Speaker B: There's like turbine cars, which are super fascinating. [00:31:59] Speaker A: They're like, oh, shoot. [00:32:01] Speaker B: And then one of the coolest things I've ever talked about and it actually never quite came to fruition, was a car that Ford was going to make, a car that ran on nuclear energy. [00:32:13] Speaker A: Oh, shoot. [00:32:15] Speaker B: And this was like, dang. Yeah. This was when everybody thought nuclear energy was going to be this. The savior for any power issues. They just didn't. At the time, they didn't realize. Well, you know, it was, I don't know, what, 50s or something. Late late 50s. They didn't realize that you had to do something with nuclear waste. And they also, obviously, they didn't have enough technology to even make a nuclear power plant safe, let alone put it in the back of your car or front of your car. You know, imagine just like a minor car. Like, imagine you rear end somebody and you have a nuclear power source in the front of your car. Yeah. That was called the Ford Nucleon, which was super interesting. Wow. It looked. It looked like a little thumb drive. Yeah. And that's what's so cool. Back then, you know, like, the design of vehicles was more artistic and changing. Now it's just kind of like. [00:33:11] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a cookie cutter. [00:33:12] Speaker B: Yeah, cookie cutter. And for the masses, 100 I know. So do you have a favorite car? [00:33:18] Speaker A: Oh, I don't know. I like low rider cars. [00:33:20] Speaker B: Oh, hell yeah. [00:33:21] Speaker A: Yeah, like low rider cars. [00:33:23] Speaker B: Yeah, dude, Monte Carlo. [00:33:26] Speaker A: I guess I've came upon the Grand National. [00:33:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:30] Speaker A: Yeah, that one seems pretty cool. [00:33:31] Speaker B: Pretty slick. What was your first car? [00:33:33] Speaker A: My first car, it was like a. Like, I don't know. I don't know what kind of car that the lowriders are made out of. [00:33:40] Speaker B: No, what was your first? [00:33:41] Speaker A: My first car? [00:33:42] Speaker B: Yeah, your first baby car. [00:33:44] Speaker A: 86, 87 Ford Escort. [00:33:48] Speaker B: Hell yeah. [00:33:49] Speaker A: The back was white, the front was blue. I had to auto body the front because. And then the inside was red. [00:33:54] Speaker B: Oh, I love that tape player, dude. I too have driven a. A multicolored car. [00:34:02] Speaker A: That's funny. Yeah, well, see, one of. Yes. I've been in so many wrecks too, in all my cars, and I don't know how the state of Texas ended up giving me a cdl. [00:34:11] Speaker B: Hey, okay. Were your wrecks when you were younger? Because that's an entirely different. [00:34:17] Speaker A: Yeah, it's been. It's been a minute. [00:34:19] Speaker B: Same knock on wood. [00:34:20] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. [00:34:21] Speaker B: I used to get into. I mean, I was not paying attention. Also apparently the whole time I needed glasses. Oh, I did not know that. [00:34:28] Speaker A: And you wear contacts now? [00:34:30] Speaker B: No, I got Lasik. [00:34:31] Speaker A: Oh, nice. Yo, I guess that's a lot better than like every day having to put. [00:34:35] Speaker B: Yeah, my eyes. Look how tiny these little eyes are. I can't help. My eyes are smaller than a contact. [00:34:43] Speaker A: Yeah, I think I'm gonna need some readers, man. Cuz up close it's gonna. [00:34:49] Speaker B: We got at one point we all got to re readers. That's the whole thing. [00:34:53] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. For sure, man. So that's pretty cool. Yeah. So you. So you grew up in Corlissi. How much time we got? [00:34:58] Speaker B: Born and raised, baby. [00:35:00] Speaker A: 30 minutes. Born and raised in the big cc. [00:35:03] Speaker B: Yeah. I love it, dude. I love Corpus Christi, Texas. And anybody that does not appreciate this town. I. It. I'm not throwing shade, but I think it's genuinely a lack of perspective because like, oh, you don't like in Corpus. Go spend a week in Freer. You know what I mean? I'm not talking shit to Freer. I'm just saying that, you know how many kids growing up in Freer wish they could just drive to the beach, go to a pleasant downtown where there's like 10 bars and restaurants, have a nice burger at the surf club. I think it's a lack of perspective. They've not left. So for five years after I graduated college, I had a job where I traveled 330 days out of the year, and that was dope. [00:35:53] Speaker A: Hell, yeah. [00:35:54] Speaker B: How many times do you think I had to vacuum? [00:35:56] Speaker A: What you say? [00:35:57] Speaker B: How many times do you think I had to vacuum? [00:36:00] Speaker A: Never. [00:36:00] Speaker B: Yeah. Did I ever make my bed? [00:36:02] Speaker A: Jeez. Never. [00:36:03] Speaker B: Yeah. Living in a hotel, I was like, I am living the dream and I enjoyed it. But okay, that was not the point of that story. The point. But I tell you, drive everywhere, dude. I. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. We were driving. Bop, bop, bop. Different city. Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. Yeah. Different city. Almost every night. I worked and played. Played heavily in 80% of the U.S. coastline. [00:36:29] Speaker A: Okay. [00:36:30] Speaker B: And while I was doing that, I was also naturally thinking, is there anywhere else I would want to live besides Corpus Christi? [00:36:36] Speaker A: Wow. [00:36:37] Speaker B: And nothing. Nothing beat it out. Because the cost of living. I mean, right now, we have a water crisis, sure, but the cost of living, the lack of serious traffic. Like, I have encountered traffic, like, no end in the Upper Northeast, but yeah. Oh, sucks balls. Like, just generally, we have a great life here in Corpus Christi, and if folks do not understand or recognize it, it's just probably due to a lack of perspective. [00:37:09] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:37:09] Speaker B: You know what I mean? [00:37:10] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. Like, it's either that and I'm thinking, too, like, other family members influencing that person. Like, oh, now Corpus is this. Oh, yeah. Corpus is this. You know what I mean? Without having their own opinion of the city. I definitely think that, too. Like, moving out, seeing what's out there, and then, like, appreciating where you live is something big, too, because I'm guilty of being like, ah, corporate sucks. Whatever, whatever. And a lot of us do. [00:37:34] Speaker B: Do you still do that now, though? [00:37:35] Speaker A: Hell no. [00:37:36] Speaker B: Well, yeah, Maybe you did it when you were younger. [00:37:38] Speaker A: When I was younger. But, like. [00:37:39] Speaker B: But now you have perspective. [00:37:40] Speaker A: Yes, exactly. That makes a lot of sense to me. And then just starting this podcast and this brand, Corpus Christi Originals, which has been nailing it. Appreciate it. [00:37:50] Speaker B: Appreciate it. It's been nailing it. [00:37:53] Speaker A: Thank you. Thank you. And, like, just starting that and getting to know people like you, it's like, wow, there's people really like, Corpus. This is kind of strange, but it's cool in a way. [00:38:04] Speaker B: We're lucky. You know what I mean, dude? We're way lucky. Because I've also worked in some very depressing landlocked state cities where these. You know, like, there's also. So, like, I know people want to. Especially during the water crisis, people want to shit on refineries, but they have never seen a city where, where there is no job opportunities besides maybe opening a hardware store or working at your local Dairy Queen. So the reality is, is we are blessed to have industries, but we got to every. You know, we got to make smart decisions on that as well. [00:38:39] Speaker A: Of course. [00:38:40] Speaker B: But the reality is, is to actually be able to have good jobs is a game changer in your quality of life. [00:38:47] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. For sure. I work in the refineries. Like I work three and I'm a truck driver. So yeah, they. They help provide for my family. You know what I mean? [00:38:55] Speaker B: Oh, it's a big deal. [00:38:56] Speaker A: I'm not like praising them, but I'm just saying we have. Like you're saying we have those jobs available to us as opposed to not having it there. Like you're saying those small towns just have Dairy Queen, Dollar General, whatever, you know. [00:39:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I, I don't. I don't think people should on industry and I don't think industry should on the environment. There's a. There is a medium we can all meet at in reality. [00:39:19] Speaker A: Cool. [00:39:20] Speaker B: But yeah, no, if you're one way or the other, then you're just being dumb, frankly. You know what I mean? Think about that. Because we need the jobs and we also want to. We want to protect the environment as well. And we can definitely find a middle ground there. Absolutely accessible. [00:39:34] Speaker A: That's cool. So I was talking with your bartender earlier. That makes me think about like, you like being a business owner and stuff like that. How did. Sorry, I changed gears really fast. [00:39:43] Speaker B: Let's change them. [00:39:43] Speaker A: I just noticed that. Oh my God. [00:39:45] Speaker B: Automotive. [00:39:47] Speaker A: Oh my God. I'm so, so add, man. [00:39:49] Speaker B: Let's start a club. I was already running with you on the next topic, so we're totally fine there. [00:39:54] Speaker A: No, I was. I was talking to. I forget her name. Britney. And she was saying that she really likes the place. It's nice and she likes working here. Yeah, she likes the ideas that you have as far as the. The chicken bingo and all that stuff. That's pretty cool. How do you go about like hiring people for your businesses? Do you look into that or just hire anybody? Like. [00:40:12] Speaker B: Oh, we don't just hire anybody. [00:40:14] Speaker A: What's your perspective? [00:40:16] Speaker B: I. I guess I'm lucky in that I worked in bars and restaurants for so long that I knew what I like to work with when I was in that industry. And I know what I like to. I like people that are genuinely pleasant. And you'll notice all of our bartenders are genuinely pleasant. Human beings, good people. And I also like it when they walk fast. Because I walk fast, and if you don't walk fast, ain't happening fast. You know what I mean? So I just. I get a. I guess when I'm interviewing them, I just get a feeling, and. Yeah. [00:40:50] Speaker A: Wow. [00:40:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:51] Speaker A: That's so cool. Yeah. Yeah. It makes me think about the industry. So networking, that's. That's a big thing for you because you're saying that working in those. Those. Well, I don't know. Did you network with people that you work with now? You know what I mean? I'm thinking about networking. [00:41:05] Speaker B: No. No. So, like, I left Corpus when I was 19. I went up to UT, and then after I graduated from UT with p. A. A degree in public relations, I literally just looked for. I was working my. I was working at a restaurant. I was working a day job at a PR company. I was, like, holding down two jobs, and I was all this aunt. Cutting it. [00:41:29] Speaker A: No, shoot. [00:41:30] Speaker B: Like, mostly mentally, I was making fine money, but I was all, I don't want this. Yeah. I was all. I. I was like, what I do want to do is get paid for travel. So. So I applied anywhere that would pay me to travel, and I got super lucky. I got accepted on to a experiential marketing company out of Chicago. And experiential marketing kind of harkens back to what we were just talking about. Is it creating experiences? If you create experiences for your customers, then they're attached to the brands. Oh, and I like that. Yeah. And it's also, like. It's. To me, the way I just made it sound sounds like more like this. A plus B equals C. But the reality is, it's like, there is a beauty in being able to give somebody an experience. [00:42:22] Speaker A: Oh, shoot. [00:42:22] Speaker B: You know what I mean? Not just your regular. Come in, have a beer, watch sports. But we do watch a lot of sports here. [00:42:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:42:28] Speaker B: But, like, giving somebody something unusual to do brings me so much joy. Like our chicken chip bingo. Our baby goat happy hour. But you got to come to the baby goat happy hour. I think we only got, like, two more left, so. [00:42:41] Speaker A: Cool. [00:42:43] Speaker B: And then our plan. Exchange, book exchange. If it's something pretty, it's very special to be able to give somebody an experience out of their these. Everybody goes to work, they go home, they got bills to pay, they got house chores, they got this and that. So to give them something that they wouldn't typically experience during the week means a lot to me. [00:43:06] Speaker A: So when you started the bar, did you think, okay, I want to do experiences, or you Just. [00:43:10] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, you did really well. Yeah. I had already had experience doing. Like, I had already worked for that experiential marketing company that I, you know. And also I've always been that person. Like, I will always choose experience over anything. [00:43:24] Speaker A: Yes. [00:43:24] Speaker B: Just in my typical life. So. [00:43:27] Speaker A: Yeah. So I guess it. Experience. So there's different types of marketing, and that's the one that you, I guess, like to do. [00:43:33] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love it so much. [00:43:36] Speaker A: That's so cool. [00:43:37] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah, it's just. It's. It's better. Like, it's more. To me, it's one of the most special forms of marketing because you're offering something that is not tangible. You're giving an experience, and they're gonna always have that. You know what I mean? [00:43:55] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah. I was talking about thinking about, like, my wife going on. Us going on vacations. [00:44:01] Speaker B: Yes. [00:44:02] Speaker A: Right. [00:44:02] Speaker B: Yes. Right. [00:44:03] Speaker A: Rather than buying something. Oh, yeah, Whatever. That'll wither away or whatever. The memories will last longer than the actual physical. Is that what you think? [00:44:14] Speaker B: You could not have nailed that more on the head for sure. That is 100. It just to be able to give somebody, like, a smile. [00:44:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:25] Speaker B: You know what I mean? It's just. I don't know. [00:44:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I was just. There was this point in my life where I was smiling a lot, but I guess now that I'm married and [00:44:32] Speaker B: have kids, I don't shut up. [00:44:35] Speaker A: Like. But I used to be at work smiling all the time. They'd be like, why are you smiling, bro? I'm like, I'm happy. Do you want to be, like, not smile? Like, what's the other. What's the opposite of that? You want to be that. You know what I mean? [00:44:45] Speaker B: Happy is first. [00:44:46] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. I mean, it's. It's good for. It's good for society. [00:44:50] Speaker B: I would agree. [00:44:51] Speaker A: Definitely. Is there anything you want to talk about? Touch on? [00:44:53] Speaker B: Yeah. What else do we always. We talked about cars. [00:44:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:56] Speaker B: Talked about the bar. [00:44:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:58] Speaker B: Talked about our events. I am going to talk about. I'm going to talk some about you never coming to our chicken shipping. [00:45:06] Speaker A: When is it? When is it? My schedule is crazy. I don't get out. [00:45:10] Speaker B: Last Sunday of every month. We put a giant chicken coop in the middle of the bar. [00:45:14] Speaker A: Okay. [00:45:15] Speaker B: All right. On the bottom of this coop, there's a bunch of numbers randomly ordered. All right? We have bingo cards. Okay. Once we sell out of our bingo cards. [00:45:25] Speaker A: I like the name. [00:45:26] Speaker B: Yeah. Once we sell out the bingo cards, then I put one of my beloved pet chickens into the coop. And wherever she shits, somebody wins $240. [00:45:38] Speaker A: 240 bucks. [00:45:40] Speaker B: Dude, I am. The wildest thing is that I've never seen some. There's grown adults literally losing their mind and cheering on chicken shit. Like, they're like, dude, how did you [00:45:53] Speaker A: come up with that idea? That's so cool. [00:45:55] Speaker B: Well, it's not original. When I lived in Austin, my sister and I both lived in Austin. Every Sunday we would go to Jenny's Little Longhorn Saloon. [00:46:03] Speaker A: Wow, that's so cool. [00:46:04] Speaker B: And they would do chicken chip bingo. And we had the best time of our lives. And so when I. When we opened the bar, I was all, we gotta pay homage to Jenny. Yeah, dude. The original, like, UT Longhorn Bar on Burnett in Austin. It's a dive. Total die. [00:46:22] Speaker A: Well, so how come me to pick Austin? Like, I know you like Corpus. [00:46:25] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [00:46:27] Speaker A: Busy or. [00:46:27] Speaker B: I mean, how did I pick that? Yeah, literally, I do more research on the restaurants I go to at night than I did in where I went to college. So. But okay, but in my defense, wild story. I actually. I got kicked out of high school when I was 16. [00:46:43] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:46:45] Speaker B: And I was like, well, I don't want to be a total fuck up. You know what I mean? I was all. I got kicked out just playing around. Yeah. Now it's real. Now I'm in real Life. So I'm 16 and I have to get my GED to be able to go to Delmar to start my basics. But you have to be 17 to get your GED. And so, like, you also have to have a driver's license to get your GED. Okay, okay. I'm 16. 16. I haven't gotten my driver's license yet. Because you also have to be enrolled in School at 16 to get your driver's license. It's like. It was like I was stuck in a perfect storm of around and find out. Also, it was my fault. Like, I was. I was. I could have been up to your name. I could have. Yeah, exactly the honor. The good blonde would have been dishonest. Yeah, I wasn't a. I was. Yeah, I would find trouble for the most part. But I get lucky. I'm trying to sign up to get my ged and they're all like, you have no identification. We can't do this. Blah, blah, blah. I get lucky. Some chick comes out of the office that when I was a kid, oops. When I was a kid, we. We swam competitively with. And she's like, oh, yeah. She's all. That's Caitlin Shook. And then I got to take my ged. I was all, hell, yeah. So I took my ged. I went to Del Mar, which I cannot speak more highly of Del Mar. Like, it is 10 out of 10, just how much the professors cared. And also I loved just the eclectic mix of students, you know what I mean? Like, you're with somebody who has a family and is doing night classes, you're with a kid, you're with somebody who's just gotten out of rehab. You name it. [00:48:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:39] Speaker B: Like, and that's the beauty of life and the beauty of souls is what I love so much about Del Mar. And also very 10, like, top tier education. At the time, Del Mar was like, in the top eight junior colleges in the nation, if you can imagine that. That's fantastic. Like, in the nation. In the nation. So while I was finishing up my basics there, my asked my oldest brother. I was like, he's all, where do you want to go? And I was like, I don't know. He's all, well, you should just go to ut. And I said, okay. I didn't do any research. I didn't do anything. I just applied to ut. [00:49:20] Speaker A: Wow. [00:49:21] Speaker B: And through the great. I mean, I was also working pretty hard because I had a chip on my shoulder from getting kicked out. I was like, I'm not going to be a total fuck up. [00:49:28] Speaker A: Damn. [00:49:29] Speaker B: So Ut transferred me in with 71 hours, which is almost unheard of because those colleges want to make money. So any hour they let in means an hour they've lost, money wise. So it was hilarious. I showed up there and neither of my parents are like, college football people. All right, I'm just going to preface that. I showed up there for. I don't. Whatever they call it. Orientation Day. [00:49:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:58] Speaker B: Just oblivious. And I was all, why is everybody wearing that color? And now. I love that color. I love my time at ut. It was great. So that's the only reason I chose it. Amazing. Is because my older brother was all like, why don't you go? Wow. And then I went. And thank God he did, because I had a tremendous time. Austin was great. UT was good. I mean, yeah, there was a little bit of a transition period where I got used to being around that many fucking frat boys and sorority girls. No, because I really loved the eclecticness of the students at Del Mar. [00:50:33] Speaker A: Amazing. So you knew college was the play. Did you think. [00:50:37] Speaker B: What is that? [00:50:38] Speaker A: You knew. You thought that college was the play for you. Like, you. You knew, like when you were 16, going back to get Your g. Oh, [00:50:45] Speaker B: no, no, no, no, no, no. I actually tried to talk. I was, I tried to talk my dad into me becoming a mechanic. [00:50:53] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:50:54] Speaker B: And he was like, over my dead body. Well, because the, the nature of. Yeah. I didn't want to go to college, to be honest. I was all like whatever money you would have spent there. I either. I was also detailing cars like I was a little hustler as a child. No, I didn't. I. They. My parents were like, you go there so you have a better future. Future. Because I wanted to. But the, the. And I appreciate. I get it because like, you know, my dad has worked with his hands. [00:51:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:22] Speaker B: His entire life. [00:51:23] Speaker A: Right. [00:51:23] Speaker B: And there's only so much time that your hands work. The reality of that. You know what I mean? [00:51:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:29] Speaker B: So like being a physical laborer, you only have so much time in that. He's like, he's all, no. Wow, you're not. He was like, absolutely not. You're going to college. Not today. [00:51:41] Speaker A: Wow. [00:51:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:43] Speaker A: So you had to. Dang. That's amazing to have a father. Have a father in your life like that. [00:51:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:50] Speaker A: You know what I mean? [00:51:50] Speaker B: Oh, I've got real lucky. My parents are angels. [00:51:53] Speaker A: Yeah. That's a blessing. That's amazing. So you got to college, you had to pay. What was it like picking a major? Like did you switch so many times? Is that why you had a lot of our credit hours? [00:52:03] Speaker B: No, no, no. I got a lot of credit hours from Delmare because I knew it was going to save money. You know what I mean? [00:52:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:52:09] Speaker B: Even. Yeah. So I saved as I took as many as I could at Delmare. And then when I got to ut, I pretty much had an idea it was either going to be business or public relations. Cuz the reality is I love the public. Like I really genuinely enjoy interacting and with. With people. [00:52:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:52:28] Speaker B: And I like the understanding of like a PR campaign. So I really liked my major. I. I liked most of all the experience that. [00:52:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:52:40] Speaker B: You know what I mean? I wasn't like a normal college student either. You know what I mean? [00:52:44] Speaker A: Like I didn't. [00:52:45] Speaker B: I was working the whole time, which is a little unusual. At ut I worked at Hyde Park Bar and Grill, bartending and waiting tables. You know, I come from like, we're mechanics, it's a nice shot. But we're still blue collar as you know what I mean? So I took. There were so many kids at UT that took college for granted. Cuz they were like preppy and expected. They were all. You know what I mean? But I had come from. Give me a second. Yeah, [00:53:19] Speaker A: Sorry about that. [00:53:20] Speaker B: Oh, you're good. [00:53:21] Speaker A: Yeah, it was, it was framing over there, man. So I'm sorry. [00:53:24] Speaker B: No, you're great. [00:53:24] Speaker A: Go ahead, go ahead. [00:53:25] Speaker B: So yeah, I didn't take college for granted because I literally got kicked out of high school and all that bull and that was. Honestly, when I first went to ut, there was a little bit of a disenchantment because I'd come from Delmar where we're all working. Like nobody's at Delmar, that's just effing around. [00:53:41] Speaker A: Right, right, right. [00:53:42] Speaker B: Whereas ut, you know, these are just kids that are just like, you know, like my man date money. So there was. But I found my own people within there and I made best friends and it was great. I genuinely enjoyed all the classes. Most of the professors like. Yeah. [00:54:02] Speaker A: Wow. So you were working while you were in college? [00:54:03] Speaker B: That's. That's. I've been working since I was 16. [00:54:06] Speaker A: That's unheard of. Like you're saying like. Cuz there's a lot of kids that maybe borrow money from the government or whatever and just live off of that or whatever. [00:54:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, okay. I will. I will say there's also some kids that can't. And that's no shade. But there's some people that can't do all of it at once. You know what I mean? There's some people that cannot do work and school at the same time. [00:54:29] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. [00:54:30] Speaker B: I think I would be a mess if I was like I. The busier I am, the better I am. [00:54:34] Speaker A: Oh, personally so you. Even to this day you have to. Do you always feel like you have to be doing something? Is it hard to relax? [00:54:40] Speaker B: I've gotten really. I've gotten way better at relaxing. I. I have. I'm so like pat on the back, you know? Cuz like I. My parents are never not working. So like even them to this day, they're still. [00:54:52] Speaker A: They're still doing stuff. Wow. [00:54:54] Speaker B: Oh. All the time. So like understanding recreation for me as like an adult took a while to under. Like I. You know, I'm like if I'm not doing something, if I don't get it, if my to do list isn't done, then what is? What am I even doing? Where is my self worth? But no, I've gotten way better at being able to appreciate and understand recreation because it's actually important to have time off and to enjoy what you like to do. Yeah. People should have e. You. I would way encourage a good balance of working and Enjoying. And I do a lot of enjoying. Like, I go to car events, I go to birding because I love to bird. [00:55:35] Speaker A: What do you. What is that? Birding? Like bird watching. [00:55:38] Speaker B: I love that you just said that. So, yes, birding is bird watching, AKA bird identification. Right now we're like in migration period. So I have been enjoying. I've had some. [00:55:55] Speaker A: Where do you go? [00:55:56] Speaker B: Dude, you can go in everywhere. Oh, you can literally be driving your car and see a bird. [00:56:01] Speaker A: Like, there's one right now. [00:56:02] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, they're everywhere. I just yesterday morning I had like six hummingbirds, Ruby throated hummingbirds flying around in my backyard. I've had some orchard orioles, mature and immature, in my backyard. But. So Corpus Christi is the birdiest city in America. And it allows you. It allows you to literally enjoy migration. People travel across the world to come to Corpus. [00:56:29] Speaker A: Seriously? [00:56:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, it's glorious. And so also, I will say this birding, bird identification is not that different from car identification in a way. Like, it's still like, you like to see it and you like to identify things. Like, it's a very specific nerdy tendency. And I love it though. Like, it's glorious. It's kind of pretty special. [00:56:49] Speaker A: So what you got special binoculars? You got like, what. How do you. What is your gear? What does your setup look like? [00:56:55] Speaker B: I don't have, like, so I'm in the Audubon Outdoor Club, which is like the. Which is a way nerdy club. I joined it as soon as I moved back from Corpus after traveling. [00:57:05] Speaker A: A birdie bird watching club. [00:57:06] Speaker B: Oh, yeah? Yeah. All bird, all day. So it's so cool. Oh, it is. So though, I don't. I have. [00:57:13] Speaker A: Well, I'm noticing the birds you got on the wall. These pictures. [00:57:15] Speaker B: I know. Isn't that nice? Yeah, yeah. It's got. Our walls have birds and cars, which are. I'm just pushing my hobbies on people, which I like. So they have Swarovski crystal binoculars and telescopes. I don't have anything that fancy. Those are like thousands, like 2, 3, 4, $5,000 binoculars. I'm not that into it. I mean, like, I'm not that. I'm not gonna spend $3,000 on binoculars. Not on my. What? I'll do that. Nah. But I got a nice pair of binoculars I keep on my dining room table because I have two big windows. I'm like, wow, what is you. Dude, I saw a summer tanager the other day, which is like this gloriously red bird, which. Yeah, I know. It's. It's really mind blowing. It's like eyeball crack. You see a vibrantly colored bird. When you see a vibrantly colored bird, you're all. You know, you just, like, your eyes get absorbed in it. It's just. It's so wonderful and fascinating. Yeah. Oh, you got some bird stuff. Yeah, that's pretty dope. Thank you for that. That's my man right there. Hell, yeah. [00:58:31] Speaker A: Pretty cool. I don't. [00:58:32] Speaker B: Those weren't flamingos. [00:58:33] Speaker A: Huh? They weren't. I don't. [00:58:40] Speaker B: I mean, I'm a birder. Yeah. I'm not gonna tell him while he's here, but those were absolutely not flamingos. Honestly, they look more like corn cormorants. [00:58:48] Speaker A: Oh, dude. So obviously you got to study the day. [00:58:51] Speaker B: I hope. Is he a regular? Does he watch your podcast? [00:58:54] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:58:55] Speaker B: Okay. Thank God. [00:58:55] Speaker A: I never met him. [00:58:56] Speaker B: I don't want him to hear me being all over. But honestly, though, they didn't have the beak of a flamingo. A flamingo beak is pretty specific. [00:59:05] Speaker A: So what do you. [00:59:05] Speaker B: They also weren't pink. [00:59:06] Speaker A: So you got. Oh, they were. What were they, like, light pink? I'm thinking, like, light pink. So flamingos are like. [00:59:12] Speaker B: That was an outline. Okay, maybe. I mean, I need to watch it again. If. If what he saw was potentially pink, it could be Rosie at Spoonbill, but what? [00:59:25] Speaker A: Really? [00:59:25] Speaker B: Those? No, those didn't even have the body. Yeah. Anyways, we'll continue on. I honestly think those were cormorants, but. [00:59:32] Speaker A: So it can look like a flamingo, but there's only. There's certain things that make it not. [00:59:36] Speaker B: Those did not look like a flamingo. So a flamingo has, like, a very distinct bill. [00:59:40] Speaker A: Oh, wow, that's so cool. [00:59:43] Speaker B: All I saw was he had essentially those. What he showed me in that video was, like, an outline of birds flying against the sun, which all you see is a shadow or. You know what I mean? [00:59:56] Speaker A: You can't really tell. [00:59:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:57] Speaker A: Wow. So cool. You got books on that stuff you recently used to use. [01:00:01] Speaker B: AI, I don't. You don't with birding? Nah. [01:00:04] Speaker A: Oh, okay. [01:00:04] Speaker B: Nah, you got so. And you gonna get. You're gonna get a book, too. So I buy, like, 20 birding identification books, like, every six months, and I hand them out like chickless. You know what I mean? You're going to get one, too. [01:00:19] Speaker A: Table. Table. Reading room, too. [01:00:21] Speaker B: Yeah. No, I mean, no, not at the bar. Just in personal, like. Okay. Yeah. So next time I. Next comedy collective, I'm going to bring you one because It's. It's like a. It's like an avalanche or a domino effect. Now that you and I have talked about birds, you're gonna notice birds more often. And then you're gonna be like, well, what bird is this? Yes. And especially you have kids, right? So wouldn't that be nice too? [01:00:48] Speaker A: Because like those green ones, they're like parrots. They look. [01:00:50] Speaker B: Oh yeah, they're monk parakeets. [01:00:52] Speaker A: Monk parakeets, but. [01:00:53] Speaker B: AKA parrots. You name it. But yeah. So like the interesting thing is those have been in Austin for a very long time. Yeah, they're an invasive species, but they're a welcome species. They're so cute that they aren't like originally from here. They're like basically escaped parakeets that have formed populations. Yeah. Super fascinating. [01:01:12] Speaker A: Is there some that. That are around here during the winter time? [01:01:15] Speaker B: Huh? [01:01:15] Speaker A: Is there some that are around here during the. Cuz there might. There's a migration season right now. [01:01:20] Speaker B: See, so there. Yeah, there's migratory birds and there's birds that just stay put around here wintertime. [01:01:24] Speaker A: Like seagulls. That's what I'm thinking about. Cuz they're here all the time. [01:01:27] Speaker B: I love a seagull. [01:01:28] Speaker A: You do? [01:01:29] Speaker B: Yeah, dude. The. The audacity. [01:01:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:32] Speaker B: You know, the seagull don't. They don't give a. [01:01:34] Speaker A: Don't care. [01:01:35] Speaker B: There is zero given out of a seagull, which I respect. That's like a spirit animal side quest. Like I will like, if I had no manners, I would steal your hamburger out of your hands. You know what I mean? Like say less. [01:01:47] Speaker A: Don't try to tame me, bro. [01:01:49] Speaker B: So anyways, I'm gonna give you a birding identification. [01:01:51] Speaker A: Oh, come on. [01:01:52] Speaker B: That way next time you see a bird, maybe with your kid you can teach that. You know what I mean? Because that's my thing is I think, oh, here I am, experience maxing. But the reality is it's like a lot of kids are now on screens and on TVs. And the one beauty about birding is it is the most accessible observational hobby. Like, think about it, like some hobbies. You got to buy something. You and I could walk out of this fucking door right now and see a monk parakeet. We could see a great tailed grackle. We could see an Inca dove. We could see a mourning dove. Like you literally don't have to have a penny in your pocket to be able to bird. You know what I mean? [01:02:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:39] Speaker B: And that's special. And why it's also special is because you're actually participating in nature. You like you. You. So many people are disconnected from nature that you could. This is your easiest way to be in. Tuned with the moment and nature. Also, I want to say it was the original Pokemon Go. [01:02:59] Speaker A: Let's go. [01:03:00] Speaker B: You know what I mean? Oh, they came out with Pokemon Go. I'm all, hello. Birding has been here forever. Oh, think about it. People are like, going somewhere to see a specific Pokemon. That's what Birding has done. Well, so when we had the Cattle Tyrant, do you remember that bird that came out out of nowhere? [01:03:17] Speaker A: Cattle Tyrant. [01:03:17] Speaker B: You don't almost tell you. Oh, it's fucking dope. So out of nowhere. And one of my. Actually, the president of the Audubon Outdoor Club, Liam Wolf, originally spotted, spotted a bird called the Cattle Tyrant over down by, like, Dokyo. [01:03:34] Speaker A: Okay. [01:03:35] Speaker B: Just down the street over there. And this bird has never been seen north of Panama. Wow. Which is wild. Yes. So super wild. Everyone's like, how did it get here? Yeah, yeah. Well, what they believe is, is it got here by accidentally getting trapped in one of the containers that come up through the port. Right now. Think about this. This bird has never been north of Panama. It's here. There are people coming down from Washington, from New York, from Seattle, you name it. To see it. Because they have the opportunity of getting a bird on their year list without going all the way to fucking the Panama. Panama. And it's just a. It's such an oddity. So cool. [01:04:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:04:21] Speaker B: So super, super fascinating. That's awesome. You know what I mean? Like, it is. [01:04:25] Speaker A: I didn't expect we're going to be talking about birds right now. [01:04:27] Speaker B: This is cool. Yeah, it's my thing. [01:04:29] Speaker A: That's awesome. [01:04:29] Speaker B: I like birds. Cars. [01:04:31] Speaker A: Yeah. Versus cars. [01:04:33] Speaker B: And cocktails. [01:04:34] Speaker A: Cocktails. I always. I drive from Portland through here. Well, I used to. And then there's like that bird. It's like a sanctuary. I want to say. You know what I'm talking about? Oh, yeah. On the. That straight from here to Portland. [01:04:46] Speaker B: Oh, for sure. [01:04:47] Speaker A: Left hand side if we're going that way. [01:04:48] Speaker B: Yeah, you can say. Yeah. You can see osprey. You can see blue herons. You can see egrets. You can see kingfishers. [01:04:55] Speaker A: Is there one that. Is there one that's like the majority of the birds, would you say? Like, like, like, is there one of. Is there one of. [01:05:04] Speaker B: Is there a bird that you see more often than the other? Yeah. Oh, well, for sure. Pelicans. We see a lot of pelicans. We see a ton of egrets. [01:05:13] Speaker A: Pelicans are dope, dude. [01:05:14] Speaker B: I love a pelican. They're on my top five. Favorite bird. [01:05:17] Speaker A: Oh, shoot. That's awesome. [01:05:18] Speaker B: And a wild story. So we all. [01:05:20] Speaker A: You got a top five? [01:05:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm a big birder. [01:05:26] Speaker A: I don't play around. Okay, don't play around, y'. All. [01:05:29] Speaker B: You. Well, after I give you this bird book, you, too, might. You might be a. You might. Yeah. [01:05:35] Speaker A: What's the name of this bird book? Katelyn? [01:05:38] Speaker B: It's just a North America identification bird book. [01:05:41] Speaker A: Nice. [01:05:42] Speaker B: Yeah. But so cool. It's a game changer because, like, it's really fun to, like. You're all. You see something. You're all. You look. [01:05:50] Speaker A: You're like. Yeah, it's a. [01:05:53] Speaker B: Did you ever get into Pokemon Go? [01:05:55] Speaker A: Not really. I mean, I've. [01:05:56] Speaker B: Yeah, me neither. Nerd. [01:05:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:59] Speaker B: I was already doing my bird, but the reality is, like, it's on. [01:06:04] Speaker A: I don't know. I don't. I don't like Pokemon Go. It's on your phone and you're like. I'm like, no. Like, you're saying we could just go out and walk in. In the grass or go to the beach or whatever. [01:06:16] Speaker B: Yeah. I only bring it up because it's, like, relevant, modern times, but it allows people to understand. [01:06:21] Speaker A: And if people do that, that's. That's their thing. I'm like that, too. Like, that's your thing. Go ahead, enjoy my thing. It's not my thing. [01:06:27] Speaker B: Be a lot cooler if you're looking at birds. [01:06:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Just be honest. Yeah. I'm a musician. I'll be like, I wish everybody can learn how to play the guitar. [01:06:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:06:35] Speaker A: That's why. That's how I am. [01:06:36] Speaker B: It's a very special talent, though. It takes for sure, you know, skills. [01:06:40] Speaker A: Piano. Like, piano is probably the easiest. You just. It's like hammering down. You know what I mean? But I get into that, too. And then, like, I started teaching and see the public schools, and there's not. There's not a lot of that hype around music as I wanted it to be, because they're just kind of elective. The sports are the big thing. [01:07:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:07:02] Speaker A: You know what I mean? And so I was like, damn, this sucks. You know what I mean? I wish there was more people into music. [01:07:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Goddamn life. [01:07:09] Speaker A: Into the arts, I guess. [01:07:11] Speaker B: I totally agree. [01:07:11] Speaker A: You know what I mean? [01:07:12] Speaker B: Well, I. There just. I feel like there used to be a larger focus on that there, you know? What do you think? [01:07:18] Speaker A: I. I think so. Because before, you didn't have your phone you had. You had to find stuff to do [01:07:24] Speaker B: with blessing and a curse right here. [01:07:27] Speaker A: Yes. [01:07:28] Speaker B: But I will say I love being able to Google something. [01:07:30] Speaker A: Like, same here. Yeah, definitely. [01:07:32] Speaker B: I want. I want to end an argument immediately by Googling something, but the other that comes along with it. [01:07:39] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. It definitely had an effect, like riding bikes, because you got a picture of a person on a bike right there. I mean, I'm thinking a lot of our. A lot of the newer generations are not learning how to ride a bike. You know what I mean? That's. That's. That's kind of scary. [01:07:55] Speaker B: Well, so there are statistics. You're totally right on that. So there are statistics lately that have come out that the teens, late teens, they don't want to get their driver's license, they don't want to have sex, and they don't want to drink. And all I wanted to do as a teenager was get my driver's license and get my hands on booze. You know what I mean? Like, that was it. [01:08:21] Speaker A: How's it going? [01:08:21] Speaker B: Yeah, I like that we have customers coming in and they're all. What the is going on around here? [01:08:28] Speaker A: What's going on here? I was asking. Yeah, I told you this would be a good place to set up because you could see him in the background. [01:08:32] Speaker B: Yeah, it looks good. [01:08:33] Speaker A: It's pretty cool, man. Well, Caitlin, thanks for coming on the show. [01:08:37] Speaker B: Please. This was a fantastic conversation. [01:08:40] Speaker A: For sure. Sure. We have definitely put some clips on there, and, man, it's a good conversation. I'm glad I had you on the show. I think Melody or Melody or. I don't know. [01:08:51] Speaker B: Yeah, Melody, our bartender. We love her. [01:08:53] Speaker A: Yeah. She was suggesting to have. To have you on the show. [01:08:55] Speaker B: She's a sweet angel. We're lucky to have her. [01:08:57] Speaker A: That's cool. That's what's up. That's what's up. Well, is there anything you want to share? I got to go take my wife's car. I got to get her car fit her. Her tire fixed. She hit a nail the other day. That's how it goes last night. Yeah. I got to get back. Back to life, man, I wish I could just talk to people. Not all I talk to. [01:09:14] Speaker B: Bet you could talk. [01:09:15] Speaker A: Not all the time. Yeah, that's what I'm going say. Not all the time. I like having this conversation, but then when I leave, I'm like, oh, for [01:09:21] Speaker B: sure I can have some. [01:09:22] Speaker A: A little bit solitude, but it's. That's just how my brain is. I like, I want social. Be social with people. But at the same time, I don't want to be social with people. My brain is always like two, like, things fighting against. Cuz I'm ADD man. And like, I'm just like, yeah, I want it, but then I don't want it, but I want to get something started. But it takes a while to get started, you know what I mean? [01:09:42] Speaker B: 100. [01:09:43] Speaker A: And I'm not like. I'm not like those people, like, oh, 5am Every day, go to the gym, workout this set. I try. I tried that one time, but it's [01:09:50] Speaker B: just like 5am Is the middle of the night. [01:09:52] Speaker A: You see what I'm saying? [01:09:53] Speaker B: Like, all right, these people are crazy. [01:09:55] Speaker A: I'm not gonna get up that early unless I have to. Like sometimes I got. I gotta go to work at 2am you know what I mean? [01:10:00] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:10:00] Speaker A: Gotta figure that stuff. Stuff out. But yeah. Thanks for coming on the show. Is there anything you want to share? [01:10:04] Speaker B: Ah, Jesus, what a good time. Dude, that was a blast. [01:10:07] Speaker A: Yes, the best time. You guys hit up the annex. You guys listen to the Bad Blonde podcast? Yeah. Check out you guys got drink specials every day. We got a list here. We do, Yep. They got. And if you don't drink alcohol, they got the Topo Chico alternative and then they got a Red Bull, which is what I usually always get here. But you guys can enjoy it. It's right here behind the uni restaurant. What's the address? [01:10:31] Speaker B: 312 South Chaparral. [01:10:33] Speaker A: Already? You guys, thanks a lot for watching you guys. Caitlin, thanks for coming through again. One more time. You guys have a good one. Yeah, see y' all later.